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Believe it or not, this is the exact place where Luther first posted the 94 thesis. We convinced him to add one.
This is the forum where the Church and its actions in history can be discussed. Since CH201, like the other fora in the History department, is not limited to participation along lines of theology, all may post here. This means that anything like Ecclesiology can be discussed without the restrictions of the Ecclesiology forum, and without the atmosphere of Ecclesiology 201 or the Apologetics-specific forum.
Please keep the Campus Decorum in mind when posting here--while 'belief' restrictions are not in place, common decency is and such is not the area to try disembowel anyone's faith.
If you need to refresh yourself on the decorm, now would be a good time.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostThe parenthesis is an oddity for sure.
A man in the psychiatric ward thinks he is dead. The psychiatrist tries to convince him he isn't.
"Do dead men feel pain?" asks the doctor
"Of course not!" says the patient.
The doctor sticks him with a needle.
"Ow!!" says the patient.
"See, you aren't dead! You felt pain!" says the doctor.
"Well, what do you know! Dead people CAN feel pain!" exclaims the patient.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostThis thread reminds me of an old joke.
A man in the psychiatric ward thinks he is dead. The psychiatrist tries to convince him he isn't.
"Do dead men feel pain?" asks the doctor
"Of course not!" says the patient.
The doctor sticks him with a needle.
"Ow!!" says the patient.
"See, you aren't dead! You felt pain!" says the doctor.
"Well, what do you know! Dead people CAN feel pain!" exclaims the patient.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostOnly some of the material doesn't perfectly align with the gospels. There are some conflicts. The second letter of Caiaphas aligns with the gospels almost ridiculously so.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostSure. Impious forgers (or ignorant pious forgers, or heretical pious forgers) are likely to include some conflicts. In the case of impious forgers, they're looking to sow doubt on the biblical narrative. In the case of heretical forgers, they're looking to bolster their heresy.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostThere is even one place where he uses the word "alma" and then in parenthesis mentions it's the hebrew word for virgin."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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So "almah" does seem to imply virginity.
Blessings,
Lee"What I pray of you is, to keep your eye upon Him, for that is everything. Do you say, 'How am I to keep my eye on Him?' I reply, keep your eye off everything else, and you will soon see Him. All depends on the eye of faith being kept on Him. How simple it is!" (J.B. Stoney)
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Originally posted by lee_merrill View Post
So "almah" does seem to imply virginity.
Blessings,
Lee"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Good point. But, it could be like in English where we sometimes use the word "maiden" to mean "virgin." but the technical meaning of "maiden" is just "young girl."
My point was that this guy is a phony because if he was genuinely translating a letter from Hebrew, why would he leave a Hebrew word in the translation instead of just translating it? The whole thing is so obviously a fake for many reasons.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostGood point. But, it could be like in English where we sometimes use the word "maiden" to mean "virgin." but the technical meaning of "maiden" is just "young girl."
My point was that this guy is a phony because if he was genuinely translating a letter from Hebrew, why would he leave a Hebrew word in the translation instead of just translating it? The whole thing is so obviously a fake for many reasons."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostOh I agree that one finds many "wackos" around, particularly when it comes to religion.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostYeah we tend to get a lot of nutty atheists around here who seem to have OCD and it seems their entire lives revolve around something they claim they don't even believe in.
Not being a believer does not prevent an individual having an academic interest in the history and comparative study of religions."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostOf course the dispassionate and critical historical analysis of texts and the socio-historical context in which they were composed is altogether something quite different.
Not being a believer does not prevent an individual having an academic interest in the history and comparative study of religions.Last edited by Sparko; 07-10-2020, 12:51 PM.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostYeah we tend to get a lot of nutty atheists around here who seem to have OCD and it seems their entire lives revolve around something they claim they don't even believe in.
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