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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    Well you definitely are more left leaning than Stalin, according to your own words.
    So is everyone in this forum according to my own words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlight View Post
    It's weird you care about this stuff.

    Whenever I encounter any of the over-the-top craziness that she lists I just walk / click away. I consider it silliness. It's got nothing whatsoever to do with my progressiveness or leftism. I call it "fake pseudo-wokism". It doesn't happen much in reality, but the media enjoys the headlines they can make.

    Precisely because it doesn't actually exist much, it plays no role in the general culture of average progressivism. So if you think progressivism as a whole is somehow collapsing due to a couple of fake pseudo-wokists somewhere saying dumb stuff, and that the average progressive is like this woman in this video in getting upset by it, then you're just deluding yourself.
    So this is fake pseudo-wokism?

    Mother, 38, is arrested in front of her children and locked in a cell for seven HOURS after calling a transgender woman a man on Twitter

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...woman-man.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonhard View Post
    While I think Starlight did something bordering on irreparable to his reputation by flirting with infanticide, he really is just a centrist when compared with politics at large. Granted some of the positions he supports such as minimum wage, are completely foreign to me as we don't have that in Denmark.
    You pay more in taxes therefore you have better social policies and yet your disposable income on average is about the same as in the U.S. You don't have a minimum wage law, yet your minimum wages on average are higher than the U.S. Any idea why that is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlight View Post
    So is everyone in this forum according to my own words.
    Because you are so far left that everyone is to the right of you. Therefore you are the most left-leaning person I have ever met.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonhard View Post
    While I think Starlight did something bordering on irreparable to his reputation by flirting with infanticide, he really is just a centrist when compared with politics at large.
    'centrists' are moderate leftists who want to say 'look at all those far-left nutters now making a centrists'.

    Also, moderate leftists usually don't want to admit that full blown leftism has usually expressed itself as a totalitarian hellhole.
    . Bloomberg, by comparison, may be the candidate that most of the Founders hoped would arise: a wealthy patrician, much like them, who would use his vast resources and influence to defeat what he views as disruptive elements in the nationís political system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    So this is fake pseudo-wokism?
    It's you gullibly trusting the Daily Mail which tends to write about half the truth at the best of times.

    Even that daily mail article notes in passing that this not-so-innocent mother had used accounts in two different names to go on a lengthy smear campaign against this particular person, calling them a huge variety of derogatory names and defamatory things over a period of time. Googling a few other articles make it clear that the issue she was being accused of was prolonged harassment.

    Mother, 38, is arrested in front of her children and locked in a cell for seven HOURS after calling a transgender woman a man on Twitter
    That incorrectly implies that the thing she did wrong was that she once called a transgender women a man, and got locked up for that. In fact, that was the least of a long list of things she did. More recent articles note that a court found her guilty of her lengthy online campaign of harassment and abuse of this particular person. She got a small fine for it.

    You'll be pleased to know that another UK court made it very clear at the same time that tweeting transphobic comments in general (not directed at any specific person, not harassing any specific person) was perfectly fine and a free speech issue, and told police off for talking to a person about the fact they'd tweeted 50 anti-trans comments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    Because you are so far left that everyone is to the right of you.
    Not everyone is to the right of me. Either now you're just saying dumb stuff or trolling, or I've lost track of what you're even trying to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlight View Post
    Not everyone is to the right of me. Either now you're just saying dumb stuff or trolling, or I've lost track of what you're even trying to say.
    or you've lost track of what YOU were saying:

    Quote Originally Posted by Starlight View Post
    So is everyone in this forum according to my own words.
    [talking about being to the left of Stalin]

    I don't think anyone here besides you would claim to be more left than Stalin. So everyone is to the right of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlight View Post
    Even that daily mail article notes in passing that this not-so-innocent mother had used accounts in two different names to go on a lengthy smear campaign against this particular person, calling them a huge variety of derogatory names and defamatory things over a period of time. Googling a few other articles make it clear that the issue she was being accused of was prolonged harassment.
    Gosh. Twitter must have been so terrified of her "pig in a wig" comments that they couldn't even bring themselves to ban her from the platform. Clearly police action was necessary.* I'm curious, how often do the police go after other people accused of online harassment against anyone who isn't transgender?

    *This is sarcasm.

    Quote Originally Posted by Starlight View Post
    You'll be pleased to know that another UK court made it very clear at the same time that tweeting transphobic comments in general (not directed at any specific person, not harassing any specific person) was perfectly fine and a free speech issue, and told police off for talking to a person about the fact they'd tweeted 50 anti-trans comments.
    So the courts pushed back once against left-wing insanity and you consider it a win. Oh-kay...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeaC View Post
    Twitter must have been so terrified of her "pig in a wig" comments that they couldn't even bring themselves to ban her from the platform.
    Fortunately the company Twitter and their general lack of interest in policing anything, aren't the measure of legality or morality. Also, as a multinational platform they can't really deal well with situations where there are different laws in different countries.

    Clearly police action was necessary.
    You don't believe police action can ever be warranted with regard to continued harassment of a person? Or you have exhaustively viewed the facts in this instance about everything the woman said and did to harass her victim, and think all her actions taken together didn't warrant a police response?

    Or, you are just saying that one pig in a wig comment by itself in isolation would be okay, even though that wasn't the situation here?

    I think many conservatives delude themselves by misunderstanding cases like this. They imagine a person saying a single anti-trans comment getting thrown in prison, and that plays into their victimization fantasies where they imagine they and other conservatives are being persecuted. When in reality that's entirely delusional on their part.

    So the courts pushed back once against left-wing insanity and you consider it a win.
    I'm saying that the UK courts appear to be being fairly consistent in saying: Expressing political free speech is fine, and this includes expressing views that are anti-trans in general, but prolonged and focused harassment of a specific person isn't fine.

    Overall, that strikes me as an okay place to draw the line. I imagine many conservatives would probably agree with me on that.

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