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"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostSo much that they forgot to include it in the impeachment articles.
They had enough evidence, the fact that not enough senators thought it was deserving of removal is another matter.
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Originally posted by Watermelon View PostDid you forget that a republican voted to remove on one article and several republicans admitted that the house proved their case?
They had enough evidence, the fact that not enough senators thought it was deserving of removal is another matter."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostI've done a bit of backtracking. This article is widely disseminated on far-right websites, blogs, and social media, and many well-known conspiracy sites. AFAICT, it has zero presence anywhere in the medical literature nor has it been reported in any mainstream news outlet. If it has, I cannot find it.
As best I can tell, it was written by Mycahya Eggleston who appears to be a Photolithography Engineer (i.e., he designs/makes very small electronics).
I am dubious.Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post...
Finally, the article goes on to outline how chloroquine could be used to ease the symptoms of respiratory distress. If it proves to be correct, it suggests chloroquine is indeed a treatment option for Covid-19 and constitutes the first documentation of this in a formal study that I am aware of. It's encouraging, but needs to be replicated and peer reviewed. Until then, it certainly gives clinicians a basis for using this option when they are running out of options.Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostIt's an experimental and unproven treatment at the moment, so Fauci's caution is reasonable. It should be rolled out slowly on a small scale and the patients carefully monitored. Can you imagine if it was used to treat thousands only to later discover that there are undesirable long-term side effects?Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
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Originally posted by NorrinRadd View PostThe observations that it is not pneumonia, does not behave like typical ARDS, and that standard ventilator protocols seem to make it worse rather than better have been addressed by E.R. doc Cameron Kyle-Sidell in various places, including an 18-minute WebMD interview.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by NorrinRadd View PostThe problem with this approach is that infectious disease expert Dr. Stephen Smith has found in his practice that HCQ is much more effective when used early than as an almost-last resort.Last edited by carpedm9587; 04-07-2020, 10:19 PM.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostWe have 19,100 new cases so far today, but 1,371 deaths already...
We also now have more cases than the next three countries combined. Those are now Spain, Italy, and France. The France situation is getting ugly. Fortunately, our deaths are nowhere the total of theirs.Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
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Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.
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Justice for Ashli Babbitt!
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Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!
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Originally posted by NorrinRadd View PostI wonder what the death rate would be if Dr. Birx had not directed that records not distinguish between deaths "from" Kung Flu and deaths "with" Kung Flu.
Further, it is almost certain we are under-counting the deaths because of the lack of testing and the decision not to test those who have already died without being tested (so as to keep the tests for the living). Hopefully, the over counting on one side and the under counting on the other cancel out - but the fact is we will never know. Add to that the possible/probable influence of politics on reporting. Total deaths and infections, ultimately, are statistically determined. There is no way to precisely count either infections or deaths.Last edited by carpedm9587; 04-07-2020, 10:25 PM.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Watermelon View PostDid you forget that a republican voted to remove on one article and several republicans admitted that the house proved their case?
They had enough evidence, the fact that not enough senators thought it was deserving of removal is another matter.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by NorrinRadd View PostDr. Oz has been touting it, partly based on his communication with numerous rheumatologists who use it regularly in their practices to treat lupus and other ailments. He says they've assured him they've had patients use it for decades with no adverse effects.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThe House proved its case that Trump did something (which was never a point of contention). It did not prove its case that Trump did something illegal.
Consider the following scenarios: A president could decide that every single office in the military is inept, demote them all to private and promote every private to the vacated officer positions. There is nothing about this action that is explicitly illegal - the president is the commander-in-chief and has the authority to do this. They also have the power of pardon which has little limit on it, and they could decide that every convicted person in the U.S. should be pardoned because the justice system is corrupt! Again, not illegal. But both actions are almost certainly harmful to the nation. Congress would have the duty to remove such a president for these actions.
The language around impeachment was specifically chosen to make it possible for Congress to remove someone from any civil office if they acted in a way - legal or illegal - that was harmful to the people they serve.
Now - take what Trump did, and put it in Obama's administration. Congress discovers that Obama has been approaching government leaders and making their financial support and/or presidential audiences dependent on their willingness to open investigations into their political rivals. What if it was shown that Obama had been asking the leaders of any country that had a Trump property to publicly open an investigation into Trump during the fall of 2015 through the summer of 2016. Close your eyes and imagine it actually happening. What is your reaction now?Last edited by carpedm9587; 04-08-2020, 07:16 AM.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Some preliminary studies on the coronavirus:
A team from Fudan University analysed blood samples from 175 patients discharged from the Shanghai Public Health Clinical Centre and found that nearly a third had unexpectedly low levels of antibodies.
In some cases, antibodies could not be detected at all.
All of the patients had recently recovered from mild symptoms of the disease and most of those with low antibody levels were young.
The team also found that antibody levels rose with age, with people in the 60-85 age group displaying more than three times the amount of antibodies as people in the 15-39 age group.
Many questions about the virus remain unanswered, including how the virus made the jump from animal to humans; why some people die from Covid-19 and others are asymptomatic; and why some recovered patients test positive again.
... too early to declare victory against the disease even in China, where the situation was under control for now. “Who knows whether this will become something like a seasonal flu, or chronic disease like hepatitis B, or just vanish like Sars?”
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostIs it possible that a medication could have a side effect when treating one disease but not another?The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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