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  • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Of course we don't know if the rate will hold. As Dr. Fauci recently said, "I just don’t think that we really need to make a projection when it’s such a moving target, that you could so easily be wrong."

    But good job keeping up with the fearmongering. You wouldn't anybody to start feeling little bit optimistic, would you?

    [...]
    And when Trump talks along those lines:
    Trump said he'd seen early estimates that 2.2 million people could have died if the government had done nothing in a worst-case scenario, so "if we can hold that down to 100,000" or less, it would be a "good job." https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...ial-distancing
    It is, of course, something completely different. He is just giving facts, I assume? Like he did when he said he had this under control?
    Last edited by Charles; 03-30-2020, 01:00 AM.
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    • Trump is a liar, he has been his entire life. Why wold he change now?
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      • Originally posted by Charles View Post
        But I think one ought to make it very clear when it is not an exact quote and you use qoutation marks. In this case there was a video from which the quote could have been taken but I could not find it there either. And correcting others, saying the context is something particular and then presenting in quotation marks what is neither in the text nor in the video without making it obvious that it is not a direct quote is bad practice.
        Here is a way you could actually make yourself useful to society: Stop making a nuisance of yourself at discussion boards and instead devote your time and energy to inventing and then universally implementing a special punctuation notation so that quotation marks can be used solely for actual quotations.
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        • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
          Of course we don't know if the rate will hold. As Dr. Fauci recently said, "I just don’t think that we really need to make a projection when it’s such a moving target, that you could so easily be wrong."

          But good job keeping up with the fearmongering. You wouldn't anybody to start feeling little bit optimistic, would you?


          Yep. This guy:

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          That guy did a much better job of containment than your guy. And because China was the first to see the virus, they were the least prepared of anyone to deal with it.
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          • Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
            That guy did a much better job of containment than your guy. And because China was the first to see the virus, they were the least prepared of anyone to deal with it.
            Can you think of any leader handling this crisis worse than Trump?

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            • Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
              Don't you know, LM? All liberals are the same and they're all out to get Trump and all conservatives and MM knows what they are all thinking. It's a conspiracy, it is! Run for the hills...the liberals are coming, the liberals are coming!
              Rich coming from someone who treats all conservatives as a monolithic block. Who's known for hand waving off any and everything from a conservative source, calling it "right wing memes."

              I'm always still in trouble again

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              • Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                That guy did a much better job of containment than your guy.
                Only if you believe the numbers they provide and considering that they have intentionally lied about virtually everything, why should anyone? Coronavirus "whistleblower" nurse says China has 90,000 sick

                I'm always still in trouble again

                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
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                • Originally posted by Watermelon View Post
                  Can you think of any leader handling this crisis worse than Trump?
                  According to polls conducted by ABC, CBS, Fox News, Gallup and Monmouth the majority of Americans disagree with your snark.

                  I'm always still in trouble again

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                  "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
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                  • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                    Only if you believe the numbers they provide and considering that they have intentionally lied about virtually everything, why should anyone? Coronavirus "whistleblower" nurse says China has 90,000 sick
                    I thought the 2000 number of sick reported by the Chinese government represented the new cases. Since people can and do remain sick for weeks, the 90,000 figure would make sense. If new cases drop, that does not mean hospitals will empty out.

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                    • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                      According to polls conducted by ABC, CBS, Fox News, Gallup and Monmouth the majority of Americans disagree with your snark.
                      And the majority must be right?
                      "Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.

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                      • Originally posted by simplicio View Post
                        I thought the 2000 number of sick reported by the Chinese government represented the new cases. Since people can and do remain sick for weeks, the 90,000 figure would make sense. If new cases drop, that does not mean hospitals will empty out.
                        From the link:

                        The coronavirus now has a whistleblower — a nurse in Wuhan who insists in a shocking online video that close to 90,000 people in China have the disease, far more than the 1,975 reported by officials.

                        I'm always still in trouble again

                        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                        "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                        • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                          Rich coming from someone who treats all conservatives as a monolithic block. Who's known for hand waving off any and everything from a conservative source, calling it "right wing memes."
                          Actually - I think you'll find I'm pretty careful about my references not being sweeping and blanket. I went to the CP school of "avoiding wide brushes." When I talk about trends in conservatism or liberalism, I use "most" or "many" specifically because I know it is almost never "all." And I cite conservative sources as well as liberal. Indeed, I tend to prefer more center left and center-right sources whenever possible; it's less work to vet their articles.

                          Memes are memes, whether they come from the right or the left. The fact that you tend to talk in meme's does not mean I call out all things from all conservatives as "memes."

                          There is a small cadre of people on this website, Rogue, that consistently cite conspiracy theories, cling to them despite evidence to the contrary, prattle on in memes, and lump all liberals in the same bucket. You are one of them, so I can understand your sensitivity to my post.
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                          • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                            Only if you believe the numbers they provide and considering that they have intentionally lied about virtually everything, why should anyone? Coronavirus "whistleblower" nurse says China has 90,000 sick
                            Ummm...the public numbers for China as of this morning are 82,198, so 90,000 is not THAT far off. I suspect the numbers are actually much higher.
                            The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

                            I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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                            • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                              According to polls conducted by ABC, CBS, Fox News, Gallup and Monmouth the majority of Americans disagree with your snark.
                              The majority by a small fraction, but sit tight and watch to see what the numbers do over time. There is always a "rally around the flag" effect after a crisis. As Trump keeps screwing up his response and cannot get past himself in every interview, I predict we will see Americans who are suffering and dying begin to tire of a president who cannot speak without fluffing his own feathers while bungling major parts of the response.
                              The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

                              I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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                              • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                                Only if you believe the numbers they provide and considering that they have intentionally lied about virtually everything, why should anyone? Coronavirus "whistleblower" nurse says China has 90,000 sick
                                That's still less than the US, which currently has more than 140,000 cases.

                                So yes, based on your own numbers, that guy did a much better job of containment than your guy.
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