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[MaxVel]

Should people be permitted to do dangerous things if they think it is not dangerous?

Should posters be allowed to ask questions that are based on a strawman of others positions?

[simplicio]

Should posters be allowed to ask questions that are based on a strawman of others positions?

The question goes to a point, that we do try to prevent people from doing dangerous actions, or actions which are harmful. It is not based on a straw position at all. I know it is bad form to draw out a Christian to make him think about his position.

There is a famous argument, that one ought not shoot into a thicket while hunting unless he is sure it is a deer and not a person, and that is applied to abortion, if one is not really sure that the fetus is a person, one should not just kill the fetus. And in this case, the person touched microphones to make a point.

Then again, maybe the analogy ought not be used for abortion, though I think it a brings in a valid point. And maybe it ought not be used for touching microphones to make a point about the disease.

[lilpixieofterror]

Should people be permitted to do dangerous things if they think it is not dangerous?

[Mountain Man]

Trump, Breitbart and Fox News are not good information.

In fact, they are excellent sources of information, but they're not the only sources I read. You see, unlike you, I don't live in a partisan bubble.

In other news, President Trump continues to enact new travel bans to protect the country while the Democrats are fighting like mad to stop him with new legislation designed to curtail the president's authority to enact travel bans.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...on-china-iran/

It's almost like the Democrats don't want the Trump administration to successfully manage this situation. Now why would they do that?

[simplicio]

But is 'permitted' the same as 'right'?

[MaxVel]

The question goes to a point,

One which has nothing to do with the discussion I was having, and one that is irrelevant to the topic of this thread. Start your own thread if you want to discuss it.

that we do try to prevent people from doing dangerous actions, or actions which are harmful. It is not based on a straw position at all. I know it is bad form to draw out a Christian to make him think about his position.

It's bad form to insult people you are purportedly trying to have a conversation with. It's also a form of trolling.

There is a famous argument, that one ought not shoot into a thicket while hunting unless he is sure it is a deer and not a person, and that is applied to abortion, if one is not really sure that the fetus is a person, one should not just kill the fetus. And in this case, the person touched microphones to make a point.

Then again, maybe the analogy ought not be used for abortion, though I think it a brings in a valid point. And maybe it ought not be used for touching microphones to make a point about the disease.

Whatever.


Got anything relevant to the topic, anything actually about coronavirus and the pandemic? Post that, or shut up.

[JonathanL]

But is 'permitted' the same as 'right'?

That's neither what you asked, nor what you implied with your previous question.

[simplicio]

That's neither what you asked, nor what you implied with your previous question.

But the answer(s) to the question place very different slant on the answers over the last dozen or so posts on the topic of the basketball players actions.

My original question was about whether we ought to allow dangerous actions if the person assumes they are not dangerous, which was a point Maxvel included.

[MaxVel]

But the answer(s) to the question place very different slant on the answers over the last dozen or so posts on the topic of the basketball players actions.

My original question was about whether we ought to allow dangerous actions if the person assumes they are not dangerous, which was a point Maxvel included.

That's quite clearly a misrepresentation of what I said. Which is why I am not interested in interacting with you and your odd obsessions. Go away.

[simplicio]

That's quite clearly a misrepresentation of what I said. Which is why I am not interested in interacting with you and your odd obsessions. Go away.

You most certainly raised the point of the potentially dangerous action that the person did not recognize the danger, post #329. (Gobert touching microphones, someone even noted that he ought to be arrested, bringing in the question of whether it was "wrong") However you did not really extend that thought as to right or wrong actions.

My first question asked under what conditions we should allow wrong actions, the second asked whether permitted was the same as "right", and in between the two I noted an analogy used for abortion which is raises some points pertinent to this discussion.

[lilpixieofterror]

But is 'permitted' the same as 'right'?

[MaxVel]

You most certainly raised the point of the potentially dangerous action that the person did not recognize the danger, post #329. (Gobert touching microphones, someone even noted that he ought to be arrested, bringing in the question of whether it was "wrong") However you did not really extend that thought as to right or wrong actions.

My first question asked under what conditions we should allow wrong actions, the second asked whether permitted was the same as "right", and in between the two I noted an analogy used for abortion which is raises some points pertinent to this discussion.

What has all this got to do with the coronavirus pandemic? Nothing.

It's a tangent to a tangent in the context of this thread, and I have no interest in discussing it. You've grabbed on to your interpretation of a minor comment and want to drag the discussion away to that. Start your own thread on it, if you want to talk about it.

[Mountain Man]

Democrats are saying that Trump's address to the nation last night was helpful, but they're still criticizing him for not doing more sooner. What, like ban travel from China in January which the Democrats blasted as "racist"? Even now you have CNN commentators claiming that Trump correctly identifying the virus as coming from China is "xenophobic", and other outlets are decrying him for referring to it, again correctly, as a "foreign virus" (and this despite the fact that those same outlets, for weeks, were referring to it as "Wuhan virus" and "Chinese coronavirus"). And this is on top of the Democrats trying to pass legislation to stop Trump being able to enact travel bans.

What is wrong with these people?

[JimL]

You see, unlike you, I don't live in a partisan bubble.



https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...on-china-iran/

[Mountain Man]

It would help if you demonstrated how the source is wrong. Or is that asking too much from you?