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  • #61
    Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
    Congrats, you have met our resident conspiracy nut(is there a nicer sounding term?). Darfius is paronoid about vatious things, including thinking that government agencies are secretly malicious rather than overworked and sometimes(or many times depending on who you ask) incompetent.
    That isn't really fair. Government has a known history of malicious (what once was at the time until it was revealed or uncovered) secrecy.

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    • #62
      Like cartoon supervillain meets demonic level evil? Or merely power corrupting sinful people and giving them the means and ability to fulfill their selfish desires at the expense of others?
      If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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      • #63
        As the old saying goes, don't mistake incompetence for malevolence.
        Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
        Than a fool in the eyes of God


        From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
          Like cartoon supervillain meets demonic level evil? Or merely power corrupting sinful people and giving them the means and ability to fulfill their selfish desires at the expense of others?
          I'd argue a little bit of both, or maybe even a lot of both.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
            Like cartoon supervillain meets demonic level evil? Or merely power corrupting sinful people and giving them the means and ability to fulfill their selfish desires at the expense of others?
            Yes.
            Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
              Congrats, you have met our resident conspiracy nut(is there a nicer sounding term?). Darfius is paronoid about vatious things, including thinking that government agencies are secretly malicious rather than overworked and sometimes(or many times depending on who you ask) incompetent.
              Wait... did you just tell Mountain Man that someone else was the conspiracy nut? Have you met Mountain Man?
              "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
              "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
              "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Darfius View Post
                I don't care a whit about your irrelevant dispute about politics. In point of fact, the CDC neither has the ability nor the desire to contain this virus. And the "2% case fatality rate" is based on China's official numbers--which are crap--and only considering those aged 60 and above, it is closer to 10%. If .10% of that age group needed hospitalization, our hospitals will be overrun, increasing the fatality rate exponentially more. And most sources admit 20% of those infected require hospitalization. When millions of Americans are dying, will you still be calling it "just a bad flu"?
                As far as Trump is concerned, the coronavirus pandemic is all a devious plot to undermine him. Naturally, MM is in full agreement.
                “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
                  Like cartoon supervillain meets demonic level evil? Or merely power corrupting sinful people and giving them the means and ability to fulfill their selfish desires at the expense of others?
                  But not the possibility of health care professionals being professional health care professionals?

                  Little is known about this disease. We have the first case within a nursing facility, a nursing home in Washington. News reports I read did not mention how many beds or patients involved.

                  We expect government to be impeccable when handling cases such as this. But the little is known about the disease, the testing kits were not made with complete perfection (yes, the testing kits did not work perfectly the first time, how many software packages work perfectly?) It wasn't due to incompetence, scientist worked at breakneck speed to create a test kit for a bug which was unknown a month ago.

                  We have been treated to stories of cover ups, untrained health care workers sent out without protective gear. But health care workers are trained in infectious diseases, and we have the responses of workers sent out, claiming that they did use proper precautions and gear.

                  This is one of those times when I do hope that politicians listen to professionals. A pandemic will swamp our health care system, already we have run out of basic supplies like masks. But is there one proper course of action on this, a course which is recognizeable to health care professionals?

                  The arguments on this seem to suggest that the amatuers behind a computer know the appropriate course of action! Not sure how many health care professionals know the right things to do. Would Americans stand for shutting down cities as China did? That is the only safe course of action

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by simplicio View Post
                    But not the possibility of health care professionals being professional health care professionals?

                    Little is known about this disease. We have the first case within a nursing facility, a nursing home in Washington. News reports I read did not mention how many beds or patients involved.

                    We expect government to be impeccable when handling cases such as this. But the little is known about the disease, the testing kits were not made with complete perfection (yes, the testing kits did not work perfectly the first time, how many software packages work perfectly?) It wasn't due to incompetence, scientist worked at breakneck speed to create a test kit for a bug which was unknown a month ago.

                    We have been treated to stories of cover ups, untrained health care workers sent out without protective gear. But health care workers are trained in infectious diseases, and we have the responses of workers sent out, claiming that they did use proper precautions and gear.

                    This is one of those times when I do hope that politicians listen to professionals. A pandemic will swamp our health care system, already we have run out of basic supplies like masks. But is there one proper course of action on this, a course which is recognizeable to health care professionals?

                    The arguments on this seem to suggest that the amatuers behind a computer know the appropriate course of action! Not sure how many health care professionals know the right things to do. Would Americans stand for shutting down cities as China did? That is the only safe course of action
                    It would be better if they would shut down TV and Internet for a few weeks.
                    Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.

                    Beige Federalist.

                    Nationalist Christian.

                    "Everybody is somebody's heretic."

                    Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.

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                    Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Tassmoron View Post
                      As far as Trump is concerned, the coronavirus pandemic is all a devious plot to undermine him. Naturally, MM is in full agreement.
                      Where did Trump say this? And where did I agree with it? Either support this assertion, or admit it's a lie.
                      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                      Than a fool in the eyes of God


                      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                        Where did Trump say this? And where did I agree with it? Either support this assertion, or admit it's a lie.

                        I'm always still in trouble again

                        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                        "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                          Where did Trump say this? And where did I agree with it? Either support this assertion, or admit it's a lie.
                          What he said was that the media and the democrats response to the issue was all a hoax to bring him down. He's implying that the outbreak isn't all that serious, that his administration is doing a great job and that the drop in the stock market is due to the media, and the democrats of course, or in other words, that it's all a hoax. Fact is the Administrations response has been pathetic. He cut the funding for the containment of such outbreaks in the first place, and then he placed no nothing loyalists in charge of health and disease control organizations. He said it'll go away, like a miracle, probably in April.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by JimLamebrain View Post
                            What he said was that the media and the democrats response to the issue was all a hoax to bring him down. He's implying that the outbreak isn't all that serious, that his administration is doing a great job and that the drop in the stock market is due to the media, and the democrats of course, or in other words, that it's all a hoax. Fact is the Administrations response has been pathetic. He cut the funding for the containment of such outbreaks in the first place, and then he placed no nothing loyalists in charge of health and disease control organizations. He said it'll go away, like a miracle, probably in April.
                            Exact quote with a source, Jimmy, not a Shifty Schiff dramatization of what you think Trump meant.
                            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                            Than a fool in the eyes of God


                            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                            • #74
                              Even CNN's Jake Tapper pushes back against false claims that the Trump administration has called the cornavirus a hoax.

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                              https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortne...ander-n2562202

                              Tapper better watch himself. Someone is likely to accuse him of turning into an honest journalist.
                              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                              Than a fool in the eyes of God


                              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                                Exact quote with a source, Jimmy, not a Shifty Schiff dramatization of what you think Trump meant.
                                I didn't say he explicitly called it a hoax. What he did was to imply that the outbreak of the virus wasn't that serious and that the media and the democrats were politicising and hyping the issue by criticizing his pathetic handling of it. In other words he was calling the criticism of his administrations handling of it a hoax, which is tantamount to calling the seriousness of the coronavirus itself a hoax.

                                "It's going to disappear, one day, it's like a miracle, it will disappear." He also said that there are 15 cases in the U.S, (actually there were 60 cases at the time) and that the 15 would soon be down to 3 or 4." He's either an idiot, or both an idiot and a lying con man.
                                Last edited by JimL; 03-01-2020, 04:45 PM.

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