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  • A tale of two countries:

    A tale of two countries, one Christian, one militantly atheistic. US and Cuba, separated by a few miles of warm water. Cuba had roughly one quarter of their population illiterate, while the US had barely 2.5% illiterate, while black illiteracy was almost 10%, and some counties in the US had sharply higher rates.

    1961 was interesting year. Cuba had pushed out Batista, nationalized industry, put countless men before the firing squad, and cemented relations with the Soviet Union.

    But it also pushed a massive literacy campaign, an eight month long campaign of pushing out into the cities and countryside to erase illiteracy in the country. And it largely succeeded, a success for Castro. Literacy rates neared 100%.

    What was the US doing during in 1961? There were many schools which were doing a good job. But that was also the period of Massive Resistance, the establishment of white Christian segregation academies, and the continued underfunding of public schools which catered to black students. Prince Edward County schools remained closed for five years, illiteracy was preferable to integration.

    What country presents a model for praise of its literacy programs of that era?

    Edit to add: Forgot to mention that Castro started to build an efficient and pervasive school system, rural and urban school system.
    Last edited by simplicio; 02-27-2020, 03:01 PM.

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    I hear Hitler had a great youth program and he loved animals.

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    • #3
      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
      Than a fool in the eyes of God


      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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      • #4
        Castro used the education system to indoctrinate the children. Then he burned the books and shot anyone writing anything he considered "subversive"

        Great literacy program. Now they can read propaganda while they starve on the streets.

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          Bernie Sanders Praises Slave Owners For Free Housing Program

          U.S.—In a televised interview, Bernie Sanders has praised slave owners for their free housing program offered to all slaves working the plantations.

          "Of course, the slavery was bad, but the slaves were housed, for free I might add, for their entire employment," Sanders said in an interview with 60 Minutes. "So it's unfair to criticize the whole thing. Also, the slaveowners were pretty impressive guys. The plantations were very clean, very nice buildings. I actually honeymooned at one in Virginia back in 1845, and it was an eye-opener for me as to how much propaganda has been used to malign slaveowners and their healthcare, housing, and literacy programs."

          At publishing time, sources had also confirmed that Bernie Sanders had defended hell itself, saying the place of eternal torment has "gotten a bad rap" and "isn't such a bad place."
          https://babylonbee.com/news/bernie-s...ing-for-slaves

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Sparko View Post
            I hear Hitler had a great youth program and he loved animals.
            An excellent point. But doesn't that mean you endorse all of Hitler's program?

            But when a person notes a true fact about a very bad politician, then doesn't that mean the person endorses the politician? Sanders praised an accomplishment of Castro to make a point about what was possible; and many saw it as an embrace of all Castro's policies.

            I do find it ....interesting that the same ones who are able to parse language to discern meaning on Trump's rhetoric use very different techniques for a Dem. Trump supposedly distanced himself from the alt right with his "fine people" comment, while Bernie explicitly denounced authoritarianism and it does not mean Sanders is distancing himself from castro!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Sparko View Post
              Now they can read propaganda while they starve on the streets.
              I'm surrounded by Cubans who still hate Castro, and even they'd laugh at that unwitting irony.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by simplicio View Post
                An excellent point. But doesn't that mean you endorse all of Hitler's program?
                I don't endorse any of Hitler's programs

                His "youth program" was nothing but brain washing children. And while he might pet a dog, he had no compunction in dissecting a human being or murdering millions.


                But when a person notes a true fact about a very bad politician, then doesn't that mean the person endorses the politician? Sanders praised an accomplishment of Castro to make a point about what was possible; and many saw it as an embrace of all Castro's policies.

                I do find it ....interesting that the same ones who are able to parse language to discern meaning on Trump's rhetoric use very different techniques for a Dem. Trump supposedly distanced himself from the alt right with his "fine people" comment, while Bernie explicitly denounced authoritarianism and it does not mean Sanders is distancing himself from castro!
                You are either a moron or trolling again.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sparky
                  You are either a moron or trolling again.
                  Why limit him to one or the other?


                  Securely anchored to the Rock amid every storm of trial, testing or tribulation.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                    You are either a moron or trolling again.
                    Calling someone out as a moron is trolling.

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                    • #11
                      Translation:
                      Originally posted by simplicio View Post
                      Pope to Catholics: For Lent, give up trolling

                      Be good, simplicio.
                      Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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                      • #12
                        Don't you understand Simplicio, you're not allowed to think carefully. You've got to think in unnuanced black and white terms.

                        Cuba bad.

                        Therefore everything about it is bad, always and forever. It's wrong to admit nuance, as it hurts the brains of conservatives to think that hard. It's wrong to acknowledge that Cuba ever did anything good. They're just completely bad and so is their little dog too.
                        Last edited by Starlight; 02-28-2020, 12:38 AM.
                        "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                        "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                        "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                          I don't endorse any of Hitler's programs
                          Hmmm. And Mussolini made the trains run on time!

                          You are either a moron or trolling again.
                          You are being disingenuous.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Juvenal View Post
                            Calling someone out as a moron is trolling.
                            Calling someone a troll who called some out as a moron is trolling.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                              Calling someone a troll who called some out as a moron is trolling.
                              No need to check your own head space Sparko. To actually post ideas of a conservative denomination like the SBC is considered to triggering for tweb conservatives and so trolling.

                              But what prompted you to use the term moron? The comparison of the responses of Tweb Christians to the remarks of Trump on finer people and the remarks of Sanders on Cuba. It almost like you have strong principles against examining the arguments of Christians.

                              Snowflake Christianity is hardly what the Lord has in mind.

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