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  • #16
    Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
    My problem is I'm seeing a conflict between my duty to God and my duty to the USA.
    Which comes first?
    Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
      Which comes first?
      God always comes first. I find this can confuse people who don't believe God exists or that He's involved in their lives.
      "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

      "Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
        God always comes first. I find this can confuse people who don't believe God exists or that He's involved in their lives.
        You'd be surprised how many "Christians" think it strange that I have qualms about the Pledge of Allegiance.
        Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.

        Beige Federalist.

        Nationalist Christian.

        "Everybody is somebody's heretic."

        Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.

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        Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.

        Justice for Ashli Babbitt!

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        • #19
          Moderator's note: You know you aren't supposed to post here.
          Last edited by KingsGambit; 03-06-2020, 12:31 PM.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post
            You'd be surprised how many "Christians" think it strange that I have qualms about the Pledge of Allegiance.
            I get it. I have a few beliefs myself that are inside orthodoxy but outside of mainstream belief. I keep them to myself unless I really trust the other person.

            I don't find it strange about the Pledge. I can see how saying it could be interpreted as putting country above God.
            "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

            "Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom

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            • #21
              I think the Pledge of Allegiance is not only non-Christian, but obviously so. I've been told I'm crazy for thinking that, but I don't think you're all off base.

              It was actually written by a socialist to shore up nationalist feelings at a time of questioning of government. I believe my allegiance is to God alone.

              I have softened my stance on this over time, but I still do believe that it's not appropriate in church services around the 4th of July.
              Last edited by KingsGambit; 03-07-2020, 02:20 PM.
              "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post

                I know voting's important so I'm interested in hearing what you have to say.
                Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
                I have a few beliefs myself that are inside orthodoxy but outside of mainstream belief.


                Demi also thinks mass suffrage is a joke. Sheep need shepherds instead of being told some nonsense about self-rule.
                Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                  I think the Pledge of Allegiance is not only non-Christian, but obviously so. I've been told I'm crazy for thinking that, but I don't think you're all off base.

                  It was actually written by a socialist to shore up nationalist feelings at a time of questioning of government. I believe my allegiance is to God alone.

                  I have softened my stance on this over time, but I still do believe that it's not appropriate in church services around the 4th of July.
                  And Colin Kaepernick?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by simplicio View Post
                    And Colin Kaepernick?
                    What about him?

                    I'm not going to criticize anybody for not standing for the national anthem given that I believe standing at reverent attention with one's hand over their heart while staring at a flag does, in fact, at least approach idolatry. But why do you ask?
                    "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                      What about him?

                      I'm not going to criticize anybody for not standing for the national anthem given that I believe standing at reverent attention with one's hand over their heart while staring at a flag does, in fact, at least approach idolatry. But why do you ask?
                      I ask because of the arguments made by Christians on the topic of taking the knee.

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