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"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by simplicio View PostBut why is it a dumb thing? There are arguments made by Christians which suggest that economically advantageous decisions are not dumb at all."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by simplicio View PostSo his mistake was only an actuarial one, a game of odds?Last edited by lilpixieofterror; 03-10-2020, 06:56 AM."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by simplicio View PostHealth insurance is often the gateway to the medical system, those without it are effectively given a lesser level of care.
* This is true of many things in life, not just healthcare.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostI forget, are you from the US? Because that's not true at all. Our medical system doesn't have one set of standards for those with health insurance, and one set of standards for those without. Granted, some options might be unavailable if you don't have the means to pay*, but that's only tangentially related to insurance.
* This is true of many things in life, not just healthcare.
We have 50 states, all with slightly different rules, regulations, and laws. In some states those without insurance have distinctly different outcomes and care upon heading to the emergency room for an acute condition. NYS has some of the strongest restrictions on hospitals, and one of the least differences on outcomes. But even here there are differences.
In long term care, the "best" homes also have a cherry picked insurance/reimbursement (private pay, certain insurances, and fewer medicare-only patients).
There are single set of standards, but how those standards are applied are another matter.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostPulling the usual stupid liberal trick of equating "health insurance" with "healthcare".
Young and healthy people often elect not to get insurance because they don't think they need it.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassmoron View PostBut they may well need it which is why they will be covered by a universal health care system, as per most of the Western world, whether or not they pay health insurance. For example, in Australia all permanent residents have access to Medicare, the state health care provider, and this is paid for through taxes.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostYou missed the point. Uninsured statistics are misleading because they include large numbers of people who could get insurance if they wanted but choose not to.
Property insurance would not be affordable at all if only those at risk of property damage were insured, entering the system of insurance only when the threat was close by.
There is one model of insurance, found in churches, where individuals come together for a form of self insurance. That model would collapse if members would come and go only when faced with expensive care.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostBut they may well need it which is why they will be covered by a universal health care system, as per most of the Western world, whether or not they pay health insurance. For example, in Australia all permanent residents have access to Medicare, the state health care provider, and this is paid for through taxes.That's what
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