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Originally posted by JimL View PostThat's because, as usual, you're misinformed, MM. Warren did answer the question a long time ago. Perhaps if you'd pop your head out of that bubble it's in once in a while you'd have known that.
http://www.npr.org/2019/11/01/775339...dicare-for-all
Warren also answered your other question. Those going into debt to pay for college should never have to have gone into such debt. College should not be available only to those born with a silver spoon in their mouths. It should be affordable to everyone that wants it without putting them into ridiculous amounts of debt.Last edited by lilpixieofterror; 03-06-2020, 10:46 AM."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by JimL View PostToo bad. She was the smartest and most articulate candidate in the whole bunch. So much for the American electorate.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by JimL View PostLike I said, so much for the American electorate!Last edited by seer; 03-06-2020, 11:09 AM.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThat's because, as usual, you're misinformed, MM. Warren did answer the question a long time ago. Perhaps if you'd pop your head out of that bubble it's in once in a while you'd have known that.
http://www.npr.org/2019/11/01/775339...dicare-for-all
Warren also answered your other question. Those going into debt to pay for college should never have to have gone into such debt. College should not be available only to those born with a silver spoon in their mouths. It should be affordable to everyone that wants it without putting them into ridiculous amounts of debt.
But now she wants parents who couldn't afford to send their kids to college, and those who couldn't afford to go to college themselves, shoulder the burden for those who went. How is that fair?
And btw, there are a number of companies out there like McDonald's and WalMart that provide substantial scholarships to employees who are attending college. You can also do a tour in the military and get a scholarship as well. It isn't like there aren't any options.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostCollege costs skyrocketed after the government 'nationalized' them -- something IIRC Warren supported. Thanks Liz.
But now she wants parents who couldn't afford to send their kids to college, and those who couldn't afford to go to college themselves, shoulder the burden for those who went. How is that fair?
And btw, there are a number of companies out there like McDonald's and WalMart that provide substantial scholarships to employees who are attending college. You can also do a tour in the military and get a scholarship as well. It isn't like there aren't any options."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by JimL View PostToo bad. She was the smartest and most articulate candidate in the whole bunch. So much for the American electorate.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by JimLamebrain View PostThat's because, as usual, you're misinformed, MM. Warren did answer the question a long time ago. Perhaps if you'd pop your head out of that bubble it's in once in a while you'd have known that.
http://www.npr.org/2019/11/01/775339...dicare-for-all
Warren also answered your other question. Those going into debt to pay for college should never have to have gone into such debt. College should not be available only to those born with a silver spoon in their mouths. It should be affordable to everyone that wants it without putting them into ridiculous amounts of debt.
"This plan aggressively constrains the price of health care, paying doctors, hospitals and drug companies much less. There would be a lot of adjustment required from hospitals and doctors as their incomes go down."
"A lot of adjustments would be required" ... no kidding! And those "adjustments" would most likely take the form of healthcare rationing and reduced access to treatments and procedures that we currently take for granted. That would quickly get us into Obama's "Maybe you don't get the surgery, maybe you just take a pill instead" territory.Last edited by Mountain Man; 03-06-2020, 12:43 PM.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostBoy are you gullible. Her plan is full of vague statements like "We'll keep expenses low by putting cost controls into place" without ever saying exactly what they're planning to do or how it will impact the average citizen. I mean look at this nonsense from someone actually trying to defend her scheme:
"This plan aggressively constrains the price of health care, paying doctors, hospitals and drug companies much less. There would be a lot of adjustment required from hospitals and doctors as their incomes go down."
"A lot of adjustments would be required" ... no kidding! And those "adjustments" would most likely take the form of healthcare rationing and reduced access to treatments and procedures that we currently take for granted. That would quickly get us into Obama's "Maybe you don't get the surgery, maybe you just take a pill instead" territory.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostYou mean the Democrat Party electorate, don't you? Amazing how the party of diversity and inclusion is so misogynistic, huh?
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostYou mean the Democrat Party electorate, don't you? Amazing how the party of diversity and inclusion is so misogynistic, huh?Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by JimL View PostToo bad. She was the smartest and most articulate candidate in the whole bunch. So much for the American electorate.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostWell, maybe she is pregnant and wasn't allowed to continue...
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostThatÂ’s an idiotic plan, that will never work.
I wasnÂ’t born, with a silver spoon in my mouth, yet managed to find a way to pay for my schooling.
The reason college tuition has skyrocketed is because of the government backing student loans. With no problems in students defaulting on their loans, with a promise that the taxpayer will back it. Why bother controlling cost?
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