Hmm... if a mother had her toddler torn limb from limb, what would that be considered? And recall that I view the human fetus as having the same rights as a human toddler or teen.
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostAbortion is not child abuse. By now, you ought to know better than that.
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Originally posted by Christianbookworm View PostHmm... if a mother had her toddler torn limb from limb, what would that be considered? And recall that I view the human fetus as having the same rights as a human toddler or teen.“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostMurdering someone is one of the worst forms of abuse.“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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Originally posted by dirtfloor View PostAbortion is not child abuse. By now, you ought to know better than that.You save the whales, you save the seals
You save whatever's cute and squeals
But you kill that thing that's in the womb
Would not want no baby-boom
Good, bad, laugh, and scorn
Blame yourself for kiddie porn
Convenience is the law you keep
And your compassion's ankle deep!
Who you trying to kid, kid?
Wrap it in a fine philosophy
Who you trying to kid, kid?
But your bottom line still says, "Me me me!"
-"Bad Rap", Steve TaylorSome may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by dirtfloor View PostHappily, abortion is not murder either. You folks are very, very confused on this subject.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostHitler's killing the Jews and other "undesirables" technically wasn't murder either, that is if we apply the standard that there is no higher moral authority to which humans are ultimately answerable.“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostYou didn't answer the question.
Tell you what, next time you encounter a woman who is grieving over a first trimester miscarriage, cheer her up my telling her that it's no big deal, that all she did was expel a non-viable lump of tissue, and that nothing of any inherent value was lost. It should make her feel better.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassmoron View PostI did. Having an abortion is decided by a woman on the basis of her particular circumstances and, far from being on a passing whim, choosing an abortion is usually a case of choosing the least bad of several bad courses of action.
If what you claim is true, that a fetus is just a lump of tissue with no inherent value, then why should getting an abortion be considered a tough decision? Why is it "the least bad of several bad courses of action"? Do people struggle with deciding if a tumor should be removed?Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostI did. Having an abortion is decided by a woman on the basis of her particular circumstances and, far from being on a passing whim, choosing an abortion is usually a case of choosing the least bad of several bad courses of action.
So we read up on raising a child with Down syndrome and all the potential negative effects that it would have for not just my wife and I but also our two other children. Even though there was never a point where we considered abortion, I understand how difficult it could be for some families in that situation.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostI did. Having an abortion is decided by a woman on the basis of her particular circumstances and, far from being on a passing whim, choosing an abortion is usually a case of choosing the least bad of several bad courses of action.
If I encounter a woman grieving over a first trimester miscarriage, I will assume that she was emotionally invested in having a child (most women are) and offer support and comfort at her loss. What else would you expect me to do? And what does this have to do with abortion?
Arguments about personhood and fetuses avoid the hard issues, choices the woman faces, the options open to her.
Originally posted by Pro life Christian View Post...... Stop the spin crap - 46 years and more than 60 million brutally cruel murders - THAT HAS TO STOP. If you don't think so, you are NOT pro-life and you can take your world loving, death worship elsewhere.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostI don't really keep up with sports.
Or he's merely blatantly trolling, as is his wont.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostHappily, abortion is not murder either. You folks are very, very confused on this subject.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostI did. Having an abortion is decided by a woman on the basis of her particular circumstances and, far from being on a passing whim, choosing an abortion is usually a case of choosing the least bad of several bad courses of action.
If I encounter a woman grieving over a first trimester miscarriage, I will assume that she was emotionally invested in having a child (most women are) and offer support and comfort at her loss. What else would you expect me to do? And what does this have to do with abortion?
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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