Abortion safety

[Christianbookworm]

Hmm... if a mother had her toddler torn limb from limb, what would that be considered? And recall that I view the human fetus as having the same rights as a human toddler or teen.

[rogue06]

Abortion is not child abuse. By now, you ought to know better than that.

Murdering someone is one of the worst forms of abuse.

[firstfloor]

Hmm... if a mother had her toddler torn limb from limb, what would that be considered? And recall that I view the human fetus as having the same rights as a human toddler or teen.

It does not have those rights, and you cannot bestow them. Your “view” is incorrect and somewhat dishonest.

[firstfloor]

Murdering someone is one of the worst forms of abuse.

Happily, abortion is not murder either. You folks are very, very confused on this subject.

[Mountain Man]

Abortion is not child abuse. By now, you ought to know better than that.

You save the whales, you save the seals
You save whatever's cute and squeals
But you kill that thing that's in the womb
Would not want no baby-boom
Good, bad, laugh, and scorn
Blame yourself for kiddie porn
Convenience is the law you keep
And your compassion's ankle deep!

Who you trying to kid, kid?
Wrap it in a fine philosophy
Who you trying to kid, kid?
But your bottom line still says, "Me me me!"

-"Bad Rap", Steve Taylor

[Mountain Man]

Happily, abortion is not murder either. You folks are very, very confused on this subject.

Hitler's killing the Jews and other "undesirables" technically wasn't murder either, that is if we apply the standard that there is no higher moral authority to which humans are ultimately answerable.

[firstfloor]

Hitler's killing the Jews and other "undesirables" technically wasn't murder either, that is if we apply the standard that there is no higher moral authority to which humans are ultimately answerable.

Don’t tell me you’re a David Irving fan.

[Mountain Man]

Don’t tell me you’re a David Irving fan.

I don't really keep up with sports.

[Tassman]

You didn't answer the question.

I did. Having an abortion is decided by a woman on the basis of her particular circumstances and, far from being on a passing whim, choosing an abortion is usually a case of choosing the least bad of several bad courses of action.

Tell you what, next time you encounter a woman who is grieving over a first trimester miscarriage, cheer her up my telling her that it's no big deal, that all she did was expel a non-viable lump of tissue, and that nothing of any inherent value was lost. It should make her feel better.

If I encounter a woman grieving over a first trimester miscarriage, I will assume that she was emotionally invested in having a child (most women are) and offer support and comfort at her loss. What else would you expect me to do? And what does this have to do with abortion?

[Mountain Man]

I did. Having an abortion is decided by a woman on the basis of her particular circumstances and, far from being on a passing whim, choosing an abortion is usually a case of choosing the least bad of several bad courses of action.

That wasn't the question I asked.

If what you claim is true, that a fetus is just a lump of tissue with no inherent value, then why should getting an abortion be considered a tough decision? Why is it "the least bad of several bad courses of action"? Do people struggle with deciding if a tumor should be removed?

[Watermelon]

I did. Having an abortion is decided by a woman on the basis of her particular circumstances and, far from being on a passing whim, choosing an abortion is usually a case of choosing the least bad of several bad courses of action.

That’s where I’m torn on this issue. It’s a decision that fundamentally changes ones life. During my wife’s third pregnancy (current) at around 11 weeks we were told that our child was at high risk for Down syndrome after the nuchal(?) scan and was put down for a more comprehensive test. My wife said she didn’t need it since we wouldn’t be aborting in any situation but our obstetrician said it’s better to know to be prepared anyway and you get to know the sex right away.

So we read up on raising a child with Down syndrome and all the potential negative effects that it would have for not just my wife and I but also our two other children. Even though there was never a point where we considered abortion, I understand how difficult it could be for some families in that situation.

[simplicio]

I did. Having an abortion is decided by a woman on the basis of her particular circumstances and, far from being on a passing whim, choosing an abortion is usually a case of choosing the least bad of several bad courses of action.



If I encounter a woman grieving over a first trimester miscarriage, I will assume that she was emotionally invested in having a child (most women are) and offer support and comfort at her loss. What else would you expect me to do? And what does this have to do with abortion?

The bolded section sounds like it came from a pro life group which ministers to women who have had abortions, although it would be (and is) worded differently.

Arguments about personhood and fetuses avoid the hard issues, choices the woman faces, the options open to her.

...... Stop the spin crap - 46 years and more than 60 million brutally cruel murders - THAT HAS TO STOP. If you don't think so, you are NOT pro-life and you can take your world loving, death worship elsewhere.

[One Bad Pig]

I don't really keep up with sports.

I suspect that what ff is trying to do here is make the pro-abortion crowd look bad.

Or he's merely blatantly trolling, as is his wont.

[rogue06]

Happily, abortion is not murder either. You folks are very, very confused on this subject.

What else do you call deliberately snuffing out a human life?

[rogue06]

I did. Having an abortion is decided by a woman on the basis of her particular circumstances and, far from being on a passing whim, choosing an abortion is usually a case of choosing the least bad of several bad courses of action.



If I encounter a woman grieving over a first trimester miscarriage, I will assume that she was emotionally invested in having a child (most women are) and offer support and comfort at her loss. What else would you expect me to do? And what does this have to do with abortion?

I knew a woman back in college who had already had several abortions. She preferred it over birth control.