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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy View Post
    The Bible says what the Bible says whether or not you like what it says.
    Really Tim? Where does the Bible support Government forced distribution of wealth?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlight View Post
    Wow, the OP verses are an incredible stretch to try and make tangential points. All the while he ignores pretty much everything Jesus had to say about wealth and poverty in the gospels, which is a huge amount, and what the apostles went on to do in Acts with regard to setting up their community. He's strained out the gnat whilst swallowing the camel.
    God was the one who made some people in the Bible very rich. And Jesus never advocated taking away from the rich because they had too much. He advocated those that had much to share with others. That isn't socialism. That's charity. Caring for your fellow many out of compassion. Not being forced to by greedy people who feel like they should have what others have earned. Socialism is based on envy.

    The bible says, "Do not covet" - Socialism says coveting is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy View Post
    Your question was not "Does government enforced socialism align with scripture?"
    Your question was "Does socialism align with scripture?", and as you can plainly see from Acts 2:44-45 it does. How you feel about that is a different story altogether and I really don't care how you feel about it.
    But it doesn't, as I said above, Socialism is about envy and coveting what others have. Charity isn't socialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    Really Tim? Where does the Bible support Government forced distribution of wealth?
    Really Seer? Where did I ever say that the Bible supports Government forced distribution of wealth? Do you have a reading comprehension problem?
    Please show me where I ever said that the Bible supports Government forced distribution of wealth. This is why nobody likes you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    But it doesn't, as I said above, Socialism is about envy and coveting what others have. Charity isn't socialism.
    I just said what the scriptures said, which was your original assignment. I'm sorry that you don't like what the scriptures say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy View Post
    The Bible says what the Bible says whether or not you like what it says.
    With Ananias and Saphira, we learn they did not have to sell their land and throw all the money into the Christian community. They did not have to participate in this. By contrast, socialism is forced confiscation of property. If you want to claim that the Bible teaches voluntary socialism, then we are talking about something different from government policies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy View Post
    I just said what the scriptures said, which was your original assignment. I'm sorry that you don't like what the scriptures say.
    No you said that was socialism. It isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikewhitney View Post
    With Ananias and Saphira, we learn they did not have to sell their land and throw all the money into the Christian community. They did not have to participate in this. By contrast, socialism is forced confiscation of property. If you want to claim that the Bible teaches voluntary socialism, then we are talking about something different from government policies.
    Everyone here seems to be assuming that I am saying something that I am NOT saying. I just quoted what Acts said. Go back and re-read my post. Don't read INTO what I posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy View Post
    Everyone here seems to be assuming that I am saying something that I am NOT saying. I just quoted what Acts said. Go back and re-read my post. Don't read INTO what I posted.
    Sure...

    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy View Post
    Yes, Socialism aligns with scripture.

    And all those who had believed were together and had all things in common and they began selling their property and possessions and were sharing them with all, as anyone might have need.
    Acts 2:44-45 NASB
    You said Scripture aligns with socialism then quoted Acts 2 as an example, correct? Well Acts 2 isn't socialism, which is what we have been arguing with you. Do you want to now claim you don't think Acts 2 is socialism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    No you said that was socialism. It isn't.

    Do you know what socialism is? A system where everybody holds all of their property in common. Whether you like socialism or not, Acts 2:44-45 describes a socialist system.
    I already know that you don't like what Acts 2:44-45 says, and I already told you that I don't care what you think.

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