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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostThe government that has handled it best so far with a large outbreak is S Korea.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
We have largely ignored the lessons to be learned from China's experience, which had a few months head start. But now we are using the methods China used.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostOkay, but they have certain inherent advantages that the US lacks, as KingsGambit and rogue pointed out. That's why I was asking for an apples-to-apples comparison. I think the US has done as well as could be reasonably expected, and I don't know of any similar countries that have done better.
So, what is reasonably expected is that the world, and the US, would have been prepared for such an event. That of course requires international cooperation, something Trumpism seems incapable of facilitating.
Such events have happened in recent decades, with Ebola in particular. Following the creation of various international and national bodies that operated across global theatres, it was stopped in countries that have very little health infrastructure. The US among others is to be commended for its efforts. That was of course under the most evil man alive, Obama (according to the simple souls here). Meanwhile Trump, that wants to overturn the previous election be undoing anything and everything related to that terrible man, went and undid much of the pandemic planning and response capability developed to combat similar threats, among other health related cuts: https://forensicnews.net/2020/03/10/...in-the-making/
Meanwhile the US, under Trump and his retard administration, has been delinquent in preparing for an event like this, as have others. I don't see how that make it better - everyone failed to see this coming (many health professionals saw it coming), so that makes it ok.Last edited by Zara; 03-24-2020, 03:23 AM.
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Originally posted by Zara View PostI think the US has done a terrible job. The country has spent trillions on defense over the past decades. So much money it boggles the mind. Meanwhile very little appears to be invested in protecting itself, and the world at large, from a pandemic. It is clear, that such preparation and funding is necessary - since this is going to cost trillions once the dust settles.
So, what is reasonably expected is that the world, and the US, would have been prepared for such an event. That of course requires international cooperation, something Trumpism seems incapable of facilitating.
Such events have happened in recent decades, with Ebola in particular. Following the creation of various international and national bodies that operated across global theatres, it was stopped in countries that have very little health infrastructure. The US among others is to be commended for its efforts. That was of course under the most evil man alive, Obama (according to the simple souls here). Meanwhile Trump, that wants to overturn the previous election be undoing anything and everything related to that terrible man, went and undid much of the pandemic planning and response capability developed to combat similar threats, among other health related cuts: https://forensicnews.net/2020/03/10/...in-the-making/
Meanwhile the US, under Trump and his retard administration, has been delinquent in preparing for an event like this, as have others. I don't see how that make it better - everyone failed to see this coming (many health professionals saw it coming), so that makes it ok.
Name 10 wars, over the past century, that killed over 1 million.
Bottom line, there really hasn’t been anything quite like this since your great great grandparents lived. In that same timeframe, there’s been many wars that have killed many more."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Zero View PostI think the US has done a terrible job.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Zara View PostI think the US has done a terrible job. The country has spent trillions on defense over the past decades. So much money it boggles the mind. Meanwhile very little appears to be invested in protecting itself, and the world at large, from a pandemic. It is clear, that such preparation and funding is necessary - since this is going to cost trillions once the dust settles.
So, what is reasonably expected is that the world, and the US, would have been prepared for such an event. That of course requires international cooperation, something Trumpism seems incapable of facilitating.
Such events have happened in recent decades, with Ebola in particular. Following the creation of various international and national bodies that operated across global theatres, it was stopped in countries that have very little health infrastructure. The US among others is to be commended for its efforts. That was of course under the most evil man alive, Obama (according to the simple souls here).
Meanwhile Trump, that wants to overturn the previous election be undoing anything and everything related to that terrible man, went and undid much of the pandemic planning and response capability developed to combat similar threats, among other health related cuts: https://forensicnews.net/2020/03/10/...in-the-making/
Meanwhile the US, under Trump and his retard administration, has been delinquent in preparing for an event like this, as have others. I don't see how that make it better - everyone failed to see this coming (many health professionals saw it coming), so that makes it ok.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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The primary difference between South Korea and Japan versus the USA is that South Korea and Japan organized nationally and rapidly and proactively implemented measures to control the spread immediately. The USA under Trump's leadership waited more than two months to respond tot coronavirus. He called the coronavirus pandemic a "hoax" and has made many false statements concerning the pandemic, and now proposes prematurally proposed ending many measures, because of his concerns over economics and not peoples lives.
The lies are to much to fit in the limits of posting. You can read the rest of the article for a good bedtime horror story. Not for children they need the sleep. The first patient in South Korea and the USA occured on the same day in January.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-...-found-in-2019
The United States was ranked the best-prepared country in the world to handle a pandemic in late 2019 by the Nuclear Threat Initiative (NTI) and the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security (JHCHS) -- an assessment seemingly at odds with claims by Democrats that the Trump administration left the country vulnerable to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Posthttps://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-...-found-in-2019
The United States was ranked the best-prepared country in the world to handle a pandemic in late 2019 by the Nuclear Threat Initiative (NTI) and the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security (JHCHS) -- an assessment seemingly at odds with claims by Democrats that the Trump administration left the country vulnerable to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak.
Please respond to the facts.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThis is FOX News. I gave the facts concerning the actual response and results in comparing South Korea and Japan versus the USA, and Trump's lies and ridicule of the Pandemic.
Please respond to the facts.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostPlease stop poisoning the well and address the fact that the US had the highest score on best-prepared country in the world to handle a pandemic in late 2019
This is FOX News. I gave the facts concerning the actual response and results in comparing South Korea and Japan versus the USA, and Trump's lies and ridicule of the Pandemic.
Please respond to the facts.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThis is FOX News.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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There is no doubt about where Trump stands.
https://youtu.be/ch7_t2Ri2Zg
Rewind the tape.
The world is being changed by this virus. It might never be the same again.
Trump has failed, spectacularly, to grasp the scale of the problem, even after watching other countries struggle. He is in denial. He is not the man for this job, and he should step aside.Last edited by firstfloor; 03-24-2020, 06:01 PM.“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostAnd you posted an article from the disreputable CNN that uses every dirty trick in the book to twist Trump's statements in order to call them "lies".Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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