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Originally posted by Cow Poke
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Which was NOT the claim you made.
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Yes - being "drummed out of the party" does not have to mean "physically expelled." It can take the form of the party making things so unpleasant that one chooses to leave rather than continue to expose themselves to the unpleasantness. That is still being "drummed out of the party," IMO.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
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I prefer a group in which multiple points of view are expressed and argued for. When a group becomes monolithic in its thinking, history shows that it becomes entrenched and more resistant to new ideas and alternate strategies.Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post
This is natural, for a conservative, since the very nature of conservatism is to resist change. It is the opposite of liberalism, which is constantly looking for new and better ways to accomplish things and new and better ways to function as a society.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick DouglasComment
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Yes, pro-life republicans are welcome in the GOP.Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
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One little mistake .... reminds me of ....Originally posted by Sparko View PostYes, pro-life republicans are welcome in the GOP.
My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19Comment
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Wow.... when ya gotta stretch your definition to allow.... Nobody got "drummed out of the party" by the Republicans.Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
Go away from my window
leave at your own chosen speed
I'm not the one you want, babe
I'm not the one you needThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.Comment
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We disagree - which is not a surprise.Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
There are two ways to make water boil: turn up the heat under the water, or lower the pressure in the environment occupied by the water. The result is the same either way.
There are two ways to "drum someone out," engage in a formal process to expel them, or make the environment unpleasant enough to cause them to "self-expel." The result is the same either way.
If you disagree, then (to be consistent) you also have to adopt the position that there is nothing amiss about Democrats "turning up the heat" on members of the party who are not following the "party line."The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick DouglasComment
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostYes, pro-life republicans are welcome in the GOP.
... good catch. It should have read:
...Some Democrats.
...and MANY Republicans have labeled non-conforming Republicans as "RINOs" and drummed them out of the party. Are you under the illusion that a pro-choice Republican would be welcome in the party?
I could have sworn I made that error, caught it, and fixed it - but apparently I didn't get to that last step.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick DouglasComment
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Because I like you so much, I'll allow you the privilege of being incredibly wrong.Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
Words have meaning, my friend. If you say "I got drummed out of the party", it clearly shows that somebody INTENDED to push you out. Not that they just were so "uncomfortable to be around" that you left of your own free will, grumbling and complaining.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.Comment
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Actually Republican members of congress who did not tow the line were threatened by Trump and others of the party working against them for reelection.Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostComment
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Carpe shoulda got his talking points from you!Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.Comment
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Yeah - and when you "turn up the heat" under someone who is not "aligning" with the party - that's pretty much what you're doing.Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick DouglasComment
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Don't ya just hate it when that happens.Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post... good catch. It should have read:
...Some Democrats.
...and MANY Republicans have labeled non-conforming Republicans as "RINOs" and drummed them out of the party. Are you under the illusion that a pro-choice Republican would be welcome in the party?
I could have sworn I made that error, caught it, and fixed it - but apparently I didn't get to that last step.
It can be brutal in these parts.
My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19Comment
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Stuff happens...Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostDon't ya just hate it when that happens. It can be brutal in these parts.
The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick DouglasComment
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That's it! I'm drumming you outta here!Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostYeah - and when you "turn up the heat" under someone who is not "aligning" with the party - that's pretty much what you're doing.
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.Comment
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Good luck with that...Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThat's it! I'm drumming you outta here!
I'm impervious to heat!The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick DouglasComment
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