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    Thoughts on Coronavirus

    What do I think about this sickness?

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    What are we to make of this virus? Let’s plunge into the Deeper Waters and find out.

    I first heard about this virus a few months ago listening to the radio and how it was mainly in China. Then we heard words about it being leaked out through places like cruise ships. I still had no major concerns about it. Then I heard about it being in Georgia with a confirmed case. Again, I wasn’t concerned.

    Yet immediately it seemed all the world around me had gone mad.

    I don’t even know for sure when it happened, but it was like one day I woke up and there was panic everywhere. Naturally, the Babylon Bee had some good articles with some Christians celebrating because greeting times at churches were canceled. (Hey. There’s some good at least!) Also, nerds woke up to a utopia where sports were canceled, social interaction limited, and everyone was being told to stay inside. Hey. We’ve been training our whole lives for this.

    Now I’m not about to speak as a medical specialist here. For me, I’ve been doing much of the same things I always do. Do I tend to wash my hands? Yes. Do we always keep hand sanitizer around here? Yes. Do I prefer to not go out if I don’t have to? Yes. Other than that, I haven’t much changed my program.

    There are apparently two major sides to this debate. One of them is that this virus is absolutely nothing and we need to treat it as such. The other side is the side that we’re all going to die and this is practically the apocalypse. If anything, it looks like the latter side is the one that has the most representation.

    Now as you can imagine, I lean more towards the former. We’ve seen several virus scares in my time. We’ve seen Swine Flu, of which I actually knew someone personally who came down with that and was in a coma and yet I did not have hysteria over it. We’ve seen Ebola, Zika, MRSA, and others. We have survived all of them. Humanity is tough stuff and whether you are an evolutionary creationist or not, we all know that humans adapt and survive.

    I have also seen numerous cases of people getting this and getting past it. We are even told some people might not even know they have it and it’s like a mild cold for them. Do some people die? Yes. I am not discounting that, but people also die of the regular flu every year and we don’t have this kind of panic over it.

    Before you talk about the vaccine being different, I have got the vaccine every year and some years I still got the flu. My wife and I both had it one year and this one was so bad that I tell people I had two fears with it. The first was that I was so sick I was scared I was going to die. The second was that I was so sick I was scared I wasn’t going to die.

    There is a proper fear to have that is the exercise of caution. It might not be wise to go down a dark alleyway at night by yourself if you’re unarmed and unprepared to defend yourself. You might not want to invest in that get-rich-quick plan your co-worker is talking about. Not all fear like this is wrong.

    When fear becomes controlling and dominating though, we have a problem. My concern is not so much with the virus. It is more concern with how we are responding to this virus.

    A few days ago we were running out of bread. I went to the store to get some. The first day, nothing. It was like being in Tennessee when a blizzard came or rather was reported to be coming. Many of us have been surprised to see toilet paper being gone from the stores as well.

    This has unfortunately led to hoarding, and for the huge majority of us, this is very wrong. Some people are taking more than they will ever use and depriving those who are not as capable of getting basic staples. If you are a family of three or four, odds are you do not need six loaves of bread and 5 packages of toilet paper.

    There was even a story of a man in Tennessee who was buying out hand sanitizer and selling it at exorbitant prices back. Thankfully, he was found and is donating those to charity. This is the kind of behavior that we are sadly seeing being done in our society.

    Not only that, but I am concerned with the measures we will take particularly with government. Will we be sacrificing our personal freedom for the idea that the government can protect us from this virus? Right now, our national enemies can tell that if they want to send us into hysteria and shut down our economy, then just manufacture a virus and send it our way. The more we sacrifice freedom for the illusion of safety, the closer we get to losing our freedom altogether.

    Odds are, you are not going to die from this virus. Unfortunately, the media has a great history of making things worse than they are. One such subject I have written about is the idea that violent video games lead to violence. For instance, when a new Grand Theft Auto game came out, which I don’t care for, the media told us there would be a surge in crime. Well, there was a change in crime when the game came out. It went down. Unfortunately, to this day, many people treat the idea that violent video games leads to violence as common knowledge.

    We had the same thing with the Joker movie, yet I heard of no violence that took place in movie theaters because of the movie. I did hear about a violent event happening in connection with Frozen 2, but no one said anything about that one really. We know in our culture that in media, sex sells, but also fear sells. Fear keeps people glued to their TV screens watching the news wanting to know what they need to do next.

    My personal thinking is that in a couple of months if not a few weeks, this whole thing will blow over. My concern is that people will say “It is because we took these precautions that we were all saved and we must do so next time.” In the meantime, much more damage is being done to our society. While big corporations are getting bailouts, what happens to the local Mom and Pop business in your area? The government doesn’t know about them and they’re not going to get the help.

    In the meantime, please try not to panic. This is not the end of the world. If you are a Christian also, you should realize God is still watching over this world. It’s His world. We’re just living in it. Pray for the well-being of your neighbor and if you can, do something to help them out. If you have an elderly neighbor who can’t get out, go to the store and get them the staples they need. If you have been hoarding, go and give that to someone who really needs it.

    For what I am sure is the overwhelming majority of you, you will be fine a year from now and if you die, most likely, it will not be from this virus. The world is not coming to an end because of this. (Despite what the prophecy experts will tell you.) We will make it. We will survive. Panic does us no favors whatsoever.

    Take proper and healthy precautions all you want, but panicking about this will not help you. It will pass. We will survive.

    In Christ,
    Nick Peters
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    everyone was being told to stay outside.
    You mean "inside."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apologiaphoenix View Post
    The other side is the side that we’re all going to die and this is practically the apocalypse.
    Why write on the topic if you have no idea or interest in what the other side is actually saying?
    "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

    There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apologiaphoenix View Post
    What do I think about this sickness?

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    What are we to make of this virus? Let’s plunge into the Deeper Waters and find out.
    Let's not.

    If you've published this, you should take it down, and replace it with a link to the CDC. The best thing to do during a pandemic, when you don't know what you're talking about, is to point folks to people who do.

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    My concern is that people will say “It is because we took these precautions that we were all saved and we must do so next time.”
    Why is this logically fallacious? Computer experts I've spoken to generally agree this is more or less exactly what happened with Y2K.
    "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juvenal View Post
    Let's not.

    If you've published this, you should take it down, and replace it with a link to the CDC. The best thing to do during a pandemic, when you don't know what you're talking about, is to point folks to people who do.
    you can find the link to the CDC on every youtube video page, no need for Nick to do this too.

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    There have been a number of alarmingly bad takes from Christians on the coronavirus, such as Sye ten Bruggencate's rant about church closings and how taking precautions belies a lack of faith in God's sovreingty, and how churches should also ban parking lots because people could die on the way to church. We need to be careful not to be foolish in the eyes of the world when it is unnecessary.
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    "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    My concern is that people will say “It is because we took these precautions that we were all saved and we must do so next time.
    Why is this logically fallacious? Computer experts I've spoken to generally agree this is more or less exactly what happened with Y2K.
    There is no scientific basis behind the claim that the current measures taken in the States is changing anything.

    If no great effects of the virus occur in the States ...

    We wouldn't know if people in America are less susceptible to the virus.
    We wouldn't know if people in the States just wash their hands more.
    Is it drastic measures that prevented an outbreak or were small changes sufficient?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikewhitney View Post
    There is no scientific basis behind the claim that the current measures taken in the States is changing anything.

    If no great effects of the virus occur in the States ...

    We wouldn't know if people in America are less susceptible to the virus.
    We wouldn't know if people in the States just wash their hands more.
    Is it drastic measures that prevented an outbreak or were small changes sufficient?
    It's far too early to draw any conclusions one way or the other because infections have not peaked.
    "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    There have been a number of alarmingly bad takes from Christians on the coronavirus, such as Sye ten Bruggencate's rant about church closings and how taking precautions belies a lack of faith in God's sovreingty, and how churches should also ban parking lots because people could die on the way to church. We need to be careful not to be foolish in the eyes of the world when it is unnecessary.
    Has there been any talk about Armageddon? You know, 4 horseman and all that?

    Seems like this would be the perfect event for the end of world nuts out there.

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