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    ABC poll: 55% approve of Trump's handling of the coronavirus crisi

    As a deepening public health crisis rocks the nation, a new ABC News/Ipsos poll released Friday shows a far different portrait of a country than from only one week ago, as nearly three in four Americans now say their lives have been upended in some way by the novel coronavirus and President Donald Trump's approval for his handling of the outbreak is on the rise.

    In the new poll, 55% of Americans approve of the president's management of the crisis, compared to 43% who disapprove. Trumpís approval on this issue is up from last week, when the numbers were nearly reversed. Only 43% approved of Trump's handling of the pandemic and 54% disapproved in last week's poll.

    Over the course of a week, the president has shifted his approach and tone, giving daily briefings on the crisis since Saturday, alongside the White House task force leading the response to the coronavirus and announcing some severe measures to combat the virus. He's also taken on a more somber tone, saying of his own tenor "people actually liked it" as the reality of the scale of the virus set in.
    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/coro...ry?id=69696172
    . Bloomberg, by comparison, may be the candidate that most of the Founders hoped would arise: a wealthy patrician, much like them, who would use his vast resources and influence to defeat what he views as disruptive elements in the nationís political system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by demi-conservative View Post
    55% approve of Trump's handling of the coronavirus crisi
    What retards. Are they completely indoctrinated from watching Fox, or is that proportion of the US just that demented?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlight View Post
    What retards. Are they completely indoctrinated from watching Fox, or is that proportion of the US just that demented?
    Or maybe they can see beyond the Young Turks bubble you are so firmly ensconced in. Or maybe they realize what is important isn't political correctness but what is actually being done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    political correctness
    Pence organizing for all statements about coronavirus to go through him, rather than being issued by the medical authorities, was a classic case of political correctness. It was apparently important to the administration that statements were politically correct rather than medically correct.

    Meanwhile Trump in interviews and on twitter has been making all sorts of false statements.

    what is actually being done.
    Doctor who helped defeat smallpox says "this is the most irresponsible act of an elected official that I've ever witnessed in my lifetime" of Trump's handling of coronavirus.

    What Trump's done is lied, called it a hoax, lied some more.

    Here's a timeline of some of Trump's statements:

    Jan 22: "We have it totally under control... Itís going to be just fine.Ē

    Feb 6: "Weíre going to be pretty soon at only five people... And we could be at just one or two people over the next short period of time."

    Feb 27: "Itís going to disappear... One day ó itís like a miracle ó it will disappear."

    Feb 28: It's "their [the Democrat's] new hoax".

    Feb 29: "everything is under control... Everything is really under control.Ē

    March 4: Trump calls the WHOís estimate of the global death rate "false." He describes the coronavirus as "very mild". He suggests that those infected can get better "going to work."

    March 7: "Iím not concerned at all". Trump goes on to explain that he would prefer the sick people stay on the cruise ship rather than disembark purely because that would keep the stats low regarding number of cases in the US rather than for any medical reason... "I like the numbers being where they are. I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault".

    March 9: Trump reiterates his mistaken view that the common flu is more deadly than COVID19.

    March 10: Trump lies about the availability of tests kits, saying tests are available for anyone who wants one (they weren't).

    March 16: "The virus is not under control - itís not under control anywhere!"
    March 16: "We have a problem that a month ago nobody ever thought about.Ē
    March 16: Trump lies about there being "precise Medical Screenings at airports" (there weren't).
    March 16: "I would rate it [my performance on dealing with the pandemic] a 10 [out of 10]."

    March 17: Trump explains he Totally Knew All Along that it was going to be bad: "Iíve always known this is a real ó this is a pandemic. I felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic. Iíve always viewed it as very serious."

    March 19: "No one has ever seen numbers like this, no one would be ready for this."


    In a 3 week period he went from it's a "hoax" and "under control" to "it's not under control anywhere" and "I've always known this is a real... pandemic".
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    Pence heads the Chicom coronavirus task force so it is hardly strange that it is going through him.

    Nor is it strange that someone like you continues to disseminate the demonstrable lie that Trump called the Chicom coronavirus a hoax even after multiple fact checkers have exposed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    Pence heads the Chicom coronavirus task force so it is hardly strange that it is going through him.

    Nor is it strange that someone like you continues to disseminate the demonstrable lie that Trump called the Chicom coronavirus a hoax even after multiple fact checkers have exposed it.
    Nor is it strange that you ignore everything else in his post that kinda destroys any credibility you or your leader have in calling the response anything but the disasters it is, and, will be - this is far from over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zara View Post
    Nor is it strange that you ignore everything else in his post that kinda destroys any credibility you or your leader have in calling the response anything but the disasters it is, and, will be - this is far from over.
    Those were the two things that sort of jumped out as pig ignorant although much of the other stuff wasn't a whole lot better.

    So do you think it's okay to disseminate falsehoods to continue a mindless jihad against Trump? Why not stick to the facts? Not everything he's done has been right -- just like every other leader. His early attempt to staunch the panic was amateurish and ill-advised although understandable (panic only makes things worse but telling people not to panic never works) but the TDS crowd feels the need to spin that all out of any recognizable reality. 55% of the country understands this in spite of the MSM's 24/7 attempts to convince us otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlight View Post
    Pence organizing for all statements about coronavirus to go through him, rather than being issued by the medical authorities, was a classic case of political correctness. It was apparently important to the administration that statements were politically correct rather than medically correct.

    Meanwhile Trump in interviews and on twitter has been making all sorts of false statements.

    Doctor who helped defeat smallpox says "this is the most irresponsible act of an elected official that I've ever witnessed in my lifetime" of Trump's handling of coronavirus.

    What Trump's done is lied, called it a hoax, lied some more.

    Here's a timeline of some of Trump's statements:

    Jan 22: "We have it totally under control... Itís going to be just fine.Ē

    Feb 6: "Weíre going to be pretty soon at only five people... And we could be at just one or two people over the next short period of time."

    Feb 27: "Itís going to disappear... One day ó itís like a miracle ó it will disappear."

    Feb 28: It's "their [the Democrat's] new hoax".

    Feb 29: "everything is under control... Everything is really under control.Ē

    March 4: Trump calls the WHOís estimate of the global death rate "false." He describes the coronavirus as "very mild". He suggests that those infected can get better "going to work."

    March 7: "Iím not concerned at all". Trump goes on to explain that he would prefer the sick people stay on the cruise ship rather than disembark purely because that would keep the stats low regarding number of cases in the US rather than for any medical reason... "I like the numbers being where they are. I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault".

    March 9: Trump reiterates his mistaken view that the common flu is more deadly than COVID19.

    March 10: Trump lies about the availability of tests kits, saying tests are available for anyone who wants one (they weren't).

    March 16: "The virus is not under control - itís not under control anywhere!"
    March 16: "We have a problem that a month ago nobody ever thought about.Ē
    March 16: Trump lies about there being "precise Medical Screenings at airports" (there weren't).
    March 16: "I would rate it [my performance on dealing with the pandemic] a 10 [out of 10]."

    March 17: Trump explains he Totally Knew All Along that it was going to be bad: "Iíve always known this is a real ó this is a pandemic. I felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic. Iíve always viewed it as very serious."

    March 19: "No one has ever seen numbers like this, no one would be ready for this."


    In a 3 week period he went from it's a "hoax" and "under control" to "it's not under control anywhere" and "I've always known this is a real... pandemic".
    The issues go much father back than just his most recent fumble: https://forensicnews.net/2020/03/10/...in-the-making/ is a long list of behind the scenes actions that resulted in the gutting of mechanisms both at a federal and international level to deal with a crises of this magnitude.

    Moral of the story is that governments need to have strong institutions, both at a federal and international level, to deal with these kinds of crises. Cutting such programmes, because of some retard extremist ideology, not good. Incompetence too, played its part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    Those were the two things that sort of jumped out as pig ignorant although much of the other stuff wasn't a whole lot better.

    So do you think it's okay to disseminate falsehoods to continue a mindless jihad against Trump? Why not stick to the facts? Not everything he's done has been right -- just like every other leader. His early attempt to staunch the panic was amateurish and ill-advised although understandable (panic only makes things worse but telling people not to panic never works) but the TDS crowd feels the need to spin that all out of any recognizable reality. 55% of the country understands this in spite of the MSM's 24/7 attempts to convince us otherwise.
    He said that his handling of the crises wasn't bad, and that the Democrats were making it out as if it was - that was a "hoax". His handling of the crises was bad, they were right about that. He didn't have it under control, he wasn't preparing for it to spiral out of control. He hoped it would go away - it didn't.

    I'm no fan of the Democrats either, fyi. Their economic programme - super charged by Trump - is a debt fueled house of cards.

    Corporate irresponsibility is running rife, most of these companies are up to their eyeballs in debt, lack emergency funding and have few leavers to get them out of trouble. The effect is that without corporate welfare they would collapse and destroy the US economy and lives of billions of people. Corporate greed at its best. Personally I think it should be game over for most of these companies, and even the US, if it wasn't for the lives of their workers. It's a form of blackmail in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimbulb View Post
    What retards. Are they completely indoctrinated from watching Fox, or is that proportion of the US just that demented?
    Were you always this stupid?
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


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