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  • Chloroquine: The cure for covid-19?

    CHLOROQUINE: THE CURE FOR COVID-19?

    Chloroquine is likely the treatment sufficient for people who encounter extreme respiratory problems. We shouldn't be rushing to a future untested vaccine to save all humanity.

    This medicine has been used with Malaria and SARS. It is time to call an end to this massive stay-at-home policy -- with some precautions for those people who are most susceptible to the effects of flu.


  • #2
    Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
    Chloroquine is possibly the treatment sufficient for people who encounter extreme respiratory problems.
    Fixed.

    We shouldn't be rushing to a future untested vaccine to save all humanity.
    Why not both?

    It is time to call an end to this massive stay-at-home policy -- with some precautions for those people who are most susceptible to the effects of flu.
    Who is the idiot in the video?
    Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
      Fixed.



      Why not both?



      Who is the idiot in the video?
      We don't need some rushed-to-the-market vaccine in hopes that it will work and that it will do more good than harm.

      Are you just having a bad day? Sorry about that. This world's stupidity should end quickly.

      The host is Del Bigtree.

      One of the big concerns I have is that the media has over-hyped this. They like using anything they can to cause fear and to speak against the President. The media will promote fear even if there is nothing to fear but fear itself.
      Last edited by mikewhitney; 03-22-2020, 01:56 PM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
        We don't need some rushed-to-the-market vaccine in hopes that it will work and that it will do more good than harm.
        Even those who are the most optimistic about it have not presented it as any sort of cure or vaccine but rather think it might help in treating those with it.

        I'm always still in trouble again

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        • #5
          Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
          We don't need some rushed-to-the-market vaccine in hopes that it will work and that it will do more good than harm.
          That's what this guy wants to do with the chloroquine, rush to market and hope that it'll work.

          One of the big concerns I have is that the media has over-hyped this. They like using anything they can to cause fear and to speak against the President. The media will promote fear even if there is nothing to fear but fear itself.
          At one point of time when the virus was mostly in China, they were spreading some story about people collapsing in the street supposedly due to coronavirus. Of course, there was zero evidence that it was due to coronavirus. Demi has seen no reports about it happening in Italy or European countries, so most likely Fake News.
          Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
            That's what this guy wants to do with the chloroquine, rush to market and hope that it'll work.
            Oh right. We rush to market medicine that has been used for 80 years. And we simply disregard the insight of Dr. Didier Raoult, MD, an Infectious Disease specialist.

            Also, the use of intraveneous Vitamin C is being used in China to heal people.

            We don't have to try to innoculate billions of people for something that can be treated sufficiently well.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
              Even those who are the most optimistic about it have not presented it as any sort of cure or vaccine but rather think it might help in treating those with it.
              Several people overdosed on it in Nigeria after rushing to self-medicate with it (presumably acting on their own): https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...p-praised-drug
              "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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              • #8
                Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
                Oh right. We rush to market medicine that has been used for 80 years. And we simply disregard the insight of Dr. Didier Raoult, MD, an Infectious Disease specialist.

                Also, the use of intraveneous Vitamin C is being used in China to heal people.

                We don't have to try to innoculate billions of people for something that can be treated sufficiently well.
                Yes, experts will and should be cautious, because they don't want non-serious cases panicking and killing themselves by overdosing on this generic drug.
                Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
                  Yes, experts will and should be cautious, because they don't want non-serious cases panicking and killing themselves by overdosing on this generic drug.
                  Great. We will stop all stupid people from doing stupid things.

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                  • #10
                    From wikipedia, for you
                    There is not enough evidence to determine whether chloroquine is safe to be given to people aged 65 and older. However, the drug is cleared by the kidneys and toxicity should be monitored carefully in people with poor kidney functions.[19]

                    Chloroquine is very dangerous in overdose. It is rapidly absorbed from the gut. In 1961, a published compilation of case reports contained accounts of three children who took overdoses and died within 2.5 hours of taking the drug. While the amount of the overdose was not stated, the therapeutic index for chloroquine is known to be small.[22] Symptoms of overdose include headache, drowsiness, visual disturbances, nausea and vomiting, cardiovascular collapse, seizures, and sudden respiratory and cardiac arrest.[19]

                    Chloroquine has been recommended by Chinese, South Korean and Italian health authorities for the treatment of COVID-19.[48][49] These agencies noted contraindications for people with heart disease or diabetes.[50]
                    It's always been considered a dangerous drug.

                    Doctors and hospitals are absolutely using it to treat, but they need to be careful with dosage since it's toxic, has significant contraindications, and can have serious side effects.

                    If you have heart problems or diabetes (which are common in the USA) it's dangerous.
                    Last edited by demi-conservative; 03-22-2020, 02:29 PM.
                    Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
                      If you have heart problems or diabetes (which are common in the USA) it's dangerous.
                      People with diabetes are also more at risk with the coronavirus, so the situation is complex.
                      Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
                        From wikipedia, for you


                        It's always been considered a dangerous drug.

                        Doctors and hospitals are absolutely using it to treat, but they need to be careful with dosage since it's toxic, has significant contraindications, and can have serious side effects.

                        If you have heart problems or diabetes (which are common in the USA) it's dangerous.
                        Thanks. But I'm not using Chloroquine.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
                          People with diabetes are also more at risk with the coronavirus, so the situation is complex.
                          So it is best to get healed of diabetes before such pandemics occur.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
                            So it is best to get healed of diabetes before such pandemics occur.
                            Best to learn patience instead of expecting a 'fast food' culture for medicine. Good therapies take time to develop. It is absolutely worth it to pursue more than one option at this stage, vaccines, chloroquine, hydroxychloroquine, 'HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE & AZITHROMYCIN' (from Trump's tweet), other drugs and combinations.
                            Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
                              We don't have to try to innoculate billions of people for something that can be treated sufficiently well.
                              That doesn't make sense. We already inoculate for plenty of diseases so that we don't have to deal with treating them anymore. Why get sick if you don't have to? Especially if it's something you'd have to take sick days for (even with a cure)?
                              Curiosity never hurt anyone. It was stupidity that killed the cat.

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