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    On Responsibility

    Nushawn Williams moved fro NYC to a rural western NY county after testing positive for HIV and had sex with some 4 dozen girls. He was the epicenter for a mini epidemic in Chautauqua County NY (known more for Amish communities and dirt roads than urban problems)

    He was sentenced to prison for his escapades in charges which included reckless endangerment.

    We have stories of coronavirus parties in Ky, and problems in Hamptons on Long Island. https://nypost.com/2020/03/19/we-sho...e-in-hamptons/

    A woman apparently traveled on public transportation knowing she was infected after being told not to travel to check into the small, rural hospital. She should up demanding to be admitted.

    Should we have disease specific crimes? Can we condemn Nushawn Williams and the partiers in Ky or the woman in the Hamptons?

    Does Fox News offer any guidance, or the faith, or secular morality?

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    Quote Originally Posted by simplicio View Post
    Nushawn Williams moved fro NYC to a rural western NY county after testing positive for HIV and had sex with some 4 dozen girls. He was the epicenter for a mini epidemic in Chautauqua County NY (known more for Amish communities and dirt roads than urban problems)

    He was sentenced to prison for his escapades in charges which included reckless endangerment.

    We have stories of coronavirus parties in Ky, and problems in Hamptons on Long Island. https://nypost.com/2020/03/19/we-sho...e-in-hamptons/

    A woman apparently traveled on public transportation knowing she was infected after being told not to travel to check into the small, rural hospital. She should up demanding to be admitted.

    Should we have disease specific crimes? Can we condemn Nushawn Williams and the partiers in Ky or the woman in the Hamptons?

    Does Fox News offer any guidance, or the faith, or secular morality?
    I donít think disease specific crimes would be necessary or practical. Knowingly engaging in conduct that is reasonably likely to infect others is reckless endangerment. If someone gets infected then its an aggravated assault since diseases should be considered grievous bodily harm. If the infection leads to death then it will be involuntary manslaughter or worse.

    Is there a different situation or another potential disease crime you had in mind?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watermelon View Post
    I donít think disease specific crimes would be necessary or practical. Knowingly engaging in conduct that is reasonably likely to infect others is reckless endangerment. If someone gets infected then its an aggravated assault since diseases should be considered grievous bodily harm. If the infection leads to death then it will be involuntary manslaughter or worse.

    Is there a different situation or another potential disease crime you had in mind?
    I was wondering how people viewed the parallels of criminal transmission of hiv to the examples of the coronavirus party.

    There is another example I saw today, a man coughed on a grocery store employee: https://www.foxnews.com/us/nj-man-wh...-governor-says

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    Quote Originally Posted by simplicio View Post
    I was wondering how people viewed the parallels of criminal transmission of hiv to the examples of the coronavirus party.

    There is another example I saw today, a man coughed on a grocery store employee: https://www.foxnews.com/us/nj-man-wh...-governor-says
    I think the laws we have now are sufficient. Reckless endangerment, terroristic threatening.

    I think the HIV example was much worse though. At the time HIV was a sure death sentence.

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    There was a person in the town I lived in who spread it to places in town and nearby counties.

    Reckless endangerment is a thing.

    I am trying to do my part in dealing with this. Some of my family members are in quarantine.

    I am trying to keep a level head. There are people who need far more than me.

    I have had to call ambulances for folks who got sick.

    I want to help folks. I have enough temptations in life and I have my own struggles anxieties and crosses to bear.

    I love humanity and with Gods help I plan to continue ue to do good even though it can be hard and draining so.etimes.

    Is that a sufficient answer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWall View Post
    There was a person in the town I lived in who spread it to places in town and nearby counties.

    Reckless endangerment is a thing.

    I am trying to do my part in dealing with this. Some of my family members are in quarantine.

    I am trying to keep a level head. There are people who need far more than me.

    I have had to call ambulances for folks who got sick.

    I want to help folks. I have enough temptations in life and I have my own struggles anxieties and crosses to bear.

    I love humanity and with Gods help I plan to continue ue to do good even though it can be hard and draining so.etimes.

    Is that a sufficient answer?
    Yes. I don't think there is a right or wrong answer, I was interested in the reasoning used.

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    If the disease, and a resulting death, can be traced to either "Coronavirus Party" celebrant, the customer who purposefully coughed on an employee, or the Hamptons example, should they be charged?

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    Quote Originally Posted by simplicio View Post
    If the disease, and a resulting death, can be traced to either "Coronavirus Party" celebrant, the customer who purposefully coughed on an employee, or the Hamptons example, should they be charged?
    Sounds like a reckless endangerment or negligent homicide. Though I admit I am less than an amateur when it comes to law.

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    Certainly someone who willfully causes harm to another should be held legally accountable.
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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    Quote Originally Posted by simplicio View Post
    If the disease, and a resulting death, can be traced to either "Coronavirus Party" celebrant, the customer who purposefully coughed on an employee, or the Hamptons example, should they be charged?
    The Hamptons example with the infected lady on public transport would be difficult to charge Iíd think.

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