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    Rationing of food

    I think it's time - before the overbuying by panicked people creates an actual supply shortage.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/26/us/wo...rnd/index.html

    I doubt we are equipped to do this quickly, but whereas we currently have plenty of actual supplies, continued panic buying is pushing the supply system to its breaking point. People will not stop on their own it appears, especially as the continued stress begins to actually create a supply problem. If you think store shelves look picked over now, just wait till the news begins reporting that there are actual shortages.

    This is yet another instance where our federal, state, and local governments are BEHIND. There needs to be limits on the number of items per customer of family per week. Implementation will take a few weeks at least, we can't wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    I think it's time - before the overbuying by panicked people creates an actual supply shortage.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/26/us/wo...rnd/index.html

    I doubt we are equipped to do this quickly, but whereas we currently have plenty of actual supplies, continued panic buying is pushing the supply system to its breaking point. People will not stop on their own it appears, especially as the continued stress begins to actually create a supply problem. If you think store shelves look picked over now, just wait till the news begins reporting that there are actual shortages.

    This is yet another instance where our federal, state, and local governments are BEHIND. There needs to be limits on the number of items per customer of family per week. Implementation will take a few weeks at least, we can't wait.
    Why does an inept government have to do everything? Stores themselves can put these limits into place. In fact, the Ralph's where I shop stopped self-check out probably so they can monitor this better. Smart and Final has put up notices limiting the number of certain items per person. Why do you love government so much?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post

    This is yet another instance where our federal, state, and local governments are BEHIND. There needs to be limits on the number of items per customer of family per week. Implementation will take a few weeks at least, we can't wait.
    Government saying that food rationing will be implemented in a few weeks is the best way to empty the shelves and create a supply shortage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seanD View Post
    Why does an inept government have to do everything? Stores themselves can put these limits into place. In fact, the Ralph's where I shop stopped self-check out probably so they can monitor this better. Smart and Final has put up notices limiting the number of certain items per person. Why do you love government so much?
    I agree. But they aren't. And I don't love the government 'so much'. Wouldn't it be nice if people did right by others and no laws were needed at all?

    So the government exists to step in and keep order when people gut nutsy and do things that endanger others. That is the differnece between civilization and anarchy. An effective but limited government requires a moral and good population with lots of internalized social responsibility.

    We aren't really there in this country. We are all focussed on ourselves and our rights. Not so much the other fellow. But maybe this pandemic will bring out some of that that has only been superficially suppressed?

    I think costco is imposing limits. The local food lion is not, with the expected results. captialism says "let it play out". I'm not sure that is wise.

    But maybe full on rationing is too much. But if that is not what we want, WE (all of us) will have to start acting responsibily and with some element of self control.

    (BTW - I grabbed the wrong link but can't seem to find that actual story I wanted to post here. What I got was a story about a lady coughing on a stores produce and ruing 35,000 worth of food.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by demi-conservative View Post
    Government saying that food rationing will be implemented in a few weeks is the best way to empty the shelves and create a supply shortage.
    You are correct there as well. It would be best if the stores just unilaterally decided to put limits on how much each customer can get of items in short supply. A government recommendation to do that, effective immediately, would prevent (or reduce) the effect of such a run on the stores.

    What I expect though is that once we see stories about real shortages, that is EXACTLY what is going to happen.
    He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me."

    "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets"

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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    I agree. But they aren't. And I don't love the government 'so much'. Wouldn't it be nice if people did right by others and no laws were needed at all?

    So the government exists to step in and keep order when people gut nutsy and do things that endanger others. That is the differnece between civilization and anarchy. An effective but limited government requires a moral and good population with lots of internalized social responsibility.

    We aren't really there in this country. We are all focussed on ourselves and our rights. Not so much the other fellow. But maybe this pandemic will bring out some of that that has only been superficially suppressed?

    I think costco is imposing limits. The local food lion is not, with the expected results. captialism says "let it play out". I'm not sure that is wise.

    But maybe full on rationing is too much. But if that is not what we want, WE (all of us) will have to start acting responsibily and with some element of self control.

    (BTW - I grabbed the wrong link but can't seem to find that actual story I wanted to post here. What I got was a story about a lady coughing on a stores produce and ruing 35,000 worth of food.)
    Uh, no. You downplay it like it's no big deal, but government enforcing sell limitations on a store is beyond the pale of government control. And you DO love government. In fact, I don't think I've ever known a Christian that advocates for government enforcement of anything and everything and pushes it so hard and as much as you do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seanD View Post
    Uh, no. You downplay it like it's no big deal, but government enforcing sell limitations on a store is beyond the pale of government control. And you DO love government. In fact, I don't think I've ever known a Christian that advocates for government enforcement of anything and everything and pushes it so hard and as much as you do.
    You are now heading straight for ad hominem territory seanD. I'll try to avoid tit-for-tat. But then again, I'm also just going to ignore that element of your reply.


    Government rationing has been necessary in the past when there were shortages. We will see it eventually again if we don't stop over-buying. It's a pay me now or pay me later sort of thing. I do believe it would be wise for stores to limit purchases of short supply items, and a government recommendation is a good way to spur them to action nationwide.
    He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me."

    "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets"

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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    I think it's time - before the overbuying by panicked people creates an actual supply shortage.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/26/us/wo...rnd/index.html

    I doubt we are equipped to do this quickly, but whereas we currently have plenty of actual supplies, continued panic buying is pushing the supply system to its breaking point. People will not stop on their own it appears, especially as the continued stress begins to actually create a supply problem. If you think store shelves look picked over now, just wait till the news begins reporting that there are actual shortages.

    This is yet another instance where our federal, state, and local governments are BEHIND. There needs to be limits on the number of items per customer of family per week. Implementation will take a few weeks at least, we can't wait.
    Every store I’ve been to had been putting limits on short supply goods, for several weeks now.
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    I came across an article on Slate the other day that suggested that the supply chain is actually fine for the time being. I wished it had gone more indepth, but it was here: https://slate.com/business/2020/03/g...ply-chain.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    I came across an article on Slate the other day that suggested that the supply chain is actually fine for the time being. I wished it had gone more indepth, but it was here: https://slate.com/business/2020/03/g...ply-chain.html
    I think inflation is far more of a concern than lack of food.
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