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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim B. View Post
    What happened to the "Innocent until proven guilty" standard?
    Ask the Democrats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seanD View Post
    Trump is no doubt a narcissistic ass through and through. And those are some terrible, creepy things he did if true. And if they're true, he justifiably got castigated by the media for it. Now what about Biden, since that's the topic of the OP? We KNOW for a fact Biden's a creep, based on photo and video evidence. Where's the media and MeToo movement for his castigation?
    As I said:

    When a Democrat VIP gets accused the standards that left set always get tossed out the window.

    Let's take a look at a little history of just this sort of behavior.

    Feminist groups like the National Organization of Women (N.O.W.) were major backers of the legislation that banned workplace sexual harassment in the 90s but that got thrown out the window when Clinton came along causing them to completely reverse course and support him. This despite how he trumpeted signing a bill making it illegal for someone in position of power (supervisor, manager etc.) from having an affair with someone under them (saying it can never be truly consensual due to the power dynamics) and then had an affair with one of his interns. N.O.W. and other groups like them declared that it was consensual in order to defend and protect an ideological soulmate.

    They completely ignored a parade of female victims that Clinton seduced (Lewinsky), flashed (Jones), groped (Willey) and possibly raped (Broaddrick) because he shared their political views. In the case of Jones, a "foremother" of the feminist movement, Gloria Steinem defended Clinton in an op-ed published in the New York Times proclaiming that he had merely made clumsy passes, then accepted rejection, so therefore there was no sexual harassment – just "boorish" behavior.

    The same week that Steinem wrote her defense of Clinton, Anita Hill claimed that even if what Kathleen Willey said was true, it wasn’t sexual harassment since it didn't result in employment discrimination. And the president of N.O.W., Jill Ireland, bragged that her organization was tough on Clinton since she called Clinton "a horse’s patootie" and hoped for better behavior from future presidents ("We would like better options for president in the future") – indicating that they were accepting of it at the time. Hardly the ceaseless demonstrations outside the White House that would have resulted if Clinton was a Republican.

    N.O.W. did toy with the idea of joining Kathleen Willey with charging Clinton with sexual harassment, but quickly declined when their membership voiced overwhelming opposition and announced that they wouldn't support Jones NOT because they thought her claims didn't have merit, but because “right-wingers” supported her. This revealed that they don't really care about women, but instead are only concerned with what a woman represents politically, or who supports that woman.

    Then N.O.W. and others did another 180 yet again a couple years later rallying against Arnold Schwarzenegger (a liberal Republican) in his successful bid to become California’s governor during the 2003 recall of Gray Davis after his series of affairs and allegations of groping came to light.

    For example, former Texas governor Ann Richards, who helped to lead a protest rally against Schwarzenegger’s campaign because of his actions had defended Bill Clinton declaring that "if we try to retire every man from office who’s done what he did, we wouldn't need affirmative action."

    The hypocrisy was so rank that On CBS' Evening News Bill Whitaker felt compelled to point out that "feminist groups that rallied around President Clinton" were now rallying against Schwarzenegger for doing the same things Clinton had done (although no one alleged that they were raped by Schwarzenegger). Whitaker even asked Katherine Spillar of the Feminist Majority Foundation, "Isn't this a case of selective outrage?" Spillar incredibly claimed that Clinton's actions (flashing, groping and rape) were all consensual sex rather than sexual harassment or worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim B. View Post
    What happened to the "Innocent until proven guilty" standard?
    Since when has the left been concerned with that? This is the standard that they demanded. This is the bed that they made. So let's see if they lie in it.

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    Essentially we're also looking at being hoisted with one's own petard. During Kavanaugh's confirmation hearings Biden made the following statement:

    "For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you've got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she's talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts, whether or not it's been made worse or better over time. But nobody fails to understand that this is like jumping into a cauldron."


    This was the standard that he set back in September of 2018.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    As I said:

    When a Democrat VIP gets accused the standards that left set always get tossed out the window.

    Let's take a look at a little history of just this sort of behavior.

    Feminist groups like the National Organization of Women (N.O.W.) were major backers of the legislation that banned workplace sexual harassment in the 90s but that got thrown out the window when Clinton came along causing them to completely reverse course and support him. This despite how he trumpeted signing a bill making it illegal for someone in position of power (supervisor, manager etc.) from having an affair with someone under them (saying it can never be truly consensual due to the power dynamics) and then had an affair with one of his interns. N.O.W. and other groups like them declared that it was consensual in order to defend and protect an ideological soulmate.

    They completely ignored a parade of female victims that Clinton seduced (Lewinsky), flashed (Jones), groped (Willey) and possibly raped (Broaddrick) because he shared their political views. In the case of Jones, a "foremother" of the feminist movement, Gloria Steinem defended Clinton in an op-ed published in the New York Times proclaiming that he had merely made clumsy passes, then accepted rejection, so therefore there was no sexual harassment – just "boorish" behavior.

    The same week that Steinem wrote her defense of Clinton, Anita Hill claimed that even if what Kathleen Willey said was true, it wasn’t sexual harassment since it didn't result in employment discrimination. And the president of N.O.W., Jill Ireland, bragged that her organization was tough on Clinton since she called Clinton "a horse’s patootie" and hoped for better behavior from future presidents ("We would like better options for president in the future") – indicating that they were accepting of it at the time. Hardly the ceaseless demonstrations outside the White House that would have resulted if Clinton was a Republican.

    N.O.W. did toy with the idea of joining Kathleen Willey with charging Clinton with sexual harassment, but quickly declined when their membership voiced overwhelming opposition and announced that they wouldn't support Jones NOT because they thought her claims didn't have merit, but because “right-wingers” supported her. This revealed that they don't really care about women, but instead are only concerned with what a woman represents politically, or who supports that woman.

    Then N.O.W. and others did another 180 yet again a couple years later rallying against Arnold Schwarzenegger (a liberal Republican) in his successful bid to become California’s governor during the 2003 recall of Gray Davis after his series of affairs and allegations of groping came to light.

    For example, former Texas governor Ann Richards, who helped to lead a protest rally against Schwarzenegger’s campaign because of his actions had defended Bill Clinton declaring that "if we try to retire every man from office who’s done what he did, we wouldn't need affirmative action."

    The hypocrisy was so rank that On CBS' Evening News Bill Whitaker felt compelled to point out that "feminist groups that rallied around President Clinton" were now rallying against Schwarzenegger for doing the same things Clinton had done (although no one alleged that they were raped by Schwarzenegger). Whitaker even asked Katherine Spillar of the Feminist Majority Foundation, "Isn't this a case of selective outrage?" Spillar incredibly claimed that Clinton's actions (flashing, groping and rape) were all consensual sex rather than sexual harassment or worse.
    The hypocrisy is disgusting. I really don't know which is worse, the left's phony racism political pandering or this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Ask the Democrats.
    So, you are not going to support the "Innocent until proven guilty" standard?
    "That is the little thing, the small thing, which Trump demands of his followers: To call hot cold. To call black white. To call wrong right." Michael Gerson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles View Post
    So, you are not going to support the "Innocent until proven guilty" standard?
    So you agree that the Dems did support the innocent until proven guilty standard?
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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    So you agree that the Dems did support the innocent until proven guilty standard?
    Why is that important with regard to whether you, I or anyone else should support it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles View Post
    Why is that important with regard to whether you, I or anyone else should support it?
    I don't support it (as a matter of fact I think this woman is fudging the truth). But this thread was about one thing - the despicable double standard of the left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    I don't support it (as a matter of fact I think this woman is fudging the truth). But this thread was about one thing - the despicable double standard of the left.
    So, you don't support the innocent until proven guilty standard?
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