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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    I've noted previously and on other subjects than those about Trump that when you find it necessary to support your position by fabricating and spreading falsehoods you are tacitly admitting that your position is unfounded or has little merit.
    Do you realize you just said 95% of Trump's positions are unfounded and have little merit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    Do you realize you just said 95% of Trump's positions are unfounded and have little merit.
    Reading comprehension fail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    And yet incontrovertibly true.
    This isn't helpful, either.

    Even if it were true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Reading comprehension fail.
    Actually, no. He's insinuating that Trump "find[s] it necessary to support [his] position by fabricating and spreading falsehoods." Just more of his usual schtick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juvenal View Post
    This isn't helpful, either.

    Even if it were true.
    So in your view truth isn't helpful?

    I'm always still in trouble again

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    Quote Originally Posted by demi-conservative View Post
    R0 and fatality rates are not biological constants
    It's clear that risk of death increases with certain preexisting conditions. This means that fatality rates are not constant, they are going to be different for different countries, and could explain why outcomes are different in different countries, eg some countries have more diabetes cases, some have more heart problems, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by demi-conservative View Post
    If it was the coronavirus last fall or winter, then how much the Chinese covered up since late December didn't matter much. If the mild cases are so mistakable for flu, it would have spread to half the countries before the Chinese noticed that something was significantly different and decided to figure it out.
    We already know there are at least two strains extant -- "S" and "L" -- with one (I forget which) apparently being more virulent. Do we know with any certainty which came first? Are we sure the relatively milder one was not already in circulation in Nov. or Dec. and mistaken for "common" flu?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juvenal View Post
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    So yeah, this is good news if we can achieve and maintain suppression until there's a vaccine.
    If "suppression" means "shutdown" for several months, let alone the 18 months needed to achieve a vaccine, it's not possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorrinRadd View Post
    We already know there are at least two strains extant -- "S" and "L" -- with one (I forget which) apparently being more virulent. Do we know with any certainty which came first? Are we sure the relatively milder one was not already in circulation in Nov. or Dec. and mistaken for "common" flu?
    Actually, there are eight strains, and no strain seems to be less dangerous than others. One thing identifying those strains has allowed us is to determine where in the world the various outbreaks came from, which set of travelers brought them in.

    Quote Originally Posted by NorrinRadd View Post
    If "suppression" means "shutdown" for several months, let alone the 18 months needed to achieve a vaccine, it's not possible.
    Suppression does not mean shutdown.

    We are faced with the shutdown because of the lack of testing, countries with testing capability are able to tailor the response to the changing conditions of the epidemic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carpedm9587 View Post
    Do you have a source for this? I'd love to look at it.

    Thanks!
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