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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    We only have some idea of when the Chinese government lost control. We really don't know much more beyond that.
    Once again calling me ignorant over something you don't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ignorant Roy View Post
    Once again calling me ignorant over something you don't know.
    I call you ignorant because the shoe fits.
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    We only have some idea of when the Chinese government lost control. We really don't know much more beyond that.
    So you are making the case that the Chinese were successful in keeping the epidemic in check up until December! Why could China keep a lid on this new virus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by simplicio View Post
    So you are making the case that the Chinese were successful in keeping the epidemic in check up until December! Why could China keep a lid on this new virus?
    The growth curve would mean, sooner or later, China (or really any country) will lose control.
    "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
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    Quote Originally Posted by simplicio View Post
    So you are making the case that the Chinese were successful in keeping the epidemic in check up until December! Why could China keep a lid on this new virus?
    You can burn that straw man if you want.
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    You can burn that straw man if you want.
    No. We can pretty accurately model what the virus does, how fast it spreads under varying conditions. One reason I doubt the 17 Nov date (which comes from some epidfemiologist) is that the number of cases, and hospital cases would have increased sooner. And as for anything sooner (they knew about for months but lied), that definitely implies that they had enough knowledge, and were skillful enough to do a darn good job.

    The "They knew about for months and lied" does not match the evidence, other than the conspiracy sites.

    The lies China did are pretty similar to the Fake news being disseminated by the US and WHO, who relies on the official US counts, even though everyone knows that they are not accurate.

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