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Welcome to the Archeology forum. Were you out doing some gardening and dug up a relic from the distant past? would you like to know more about Ancient Egypt? Did you think Memphis was actually a city in Tennessee?
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Shroud of Turin - New Date?
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Last edited by shunyadragon; 05-28-2014, 12:33 PM.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
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I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostNo, it isn't - they're talking about the '78 exam. And I said my article stated the samples were from '88.
Haven't had your coffee yet, huh?I'm not here anymore.
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Meh, people have been debating wheyher it's authentic or not since the Middle Ages.Better to illuminate than merely to shine, to deliver to others contemplated truths than merely to contemplate.
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostThere's an explanation for that - but that's another thread.Better to illuminate than merely to shine, to deliver to others contemplated truths than merely to contemplate.
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Sure - but it'll be several days before I get to it - really busy and I owe RW a response as it is. PM me the link."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Carrikature View PostIt's the same people, the same timeframe, the same book, and the same methodology. The difference between Wikipedia and USA Today is where the samples originate.
The problem Wiki talks about is the secondary way that the '78 samples were obtained (and I agree - way too many problems with that). The new attempt uses the '88 samples - which have a completely different set of problems that Wiki doesn't mention. It must be discussing the first attempt and not the present one - the sample dates make that clear."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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a bit out of date, but Frank Turek interviewed Gary Habermas on the Shroud a few years back on Cross Examined.
http://mediaserver3.afa.net/archives...NKT_012112.mp3
He also gave a lecture at The Christian Apologetics Conference in Gothenburg, Sweden titled: The Shroud of Turin: A Non-Reproducible Artifact That Points To A Supernatural Cause
http://www.garyhabermas.com/audio/Ha...%201%20E1b.mp3Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong.
1 Corinthians 16:13
"...he [Doherty] is no historian and he is not even conversant with the historical discussions of the very matters he wants to pontificate on."
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Originally posted by Teallaura View Post1988 and 1978 are the same timeframe?
The problem Wiki talks about is the secondary way that the '78 samples were obtained (and I agree - way too many problems with that). The new attempt uses the '88 samples - which have a completely different set of problems that Wiki doesn't mention. It must be discussing the first attempt and not the present one - the sample dates make that clear.
I don't know what present attempt you're referring to. The article you linked is over a year old.I'm not here anymore.
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Originally posted by Carrikature View PostThe article you linked is dated March of 2013. The segment Rogue linked refers to events in 2013. That's the timeframe I'm talking about.
I don't know what present attempt you're referring to. The article you linked is over a year old.
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