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    Quote Originally Posted by lee_merrill View Post
    Can you please not argue by posting a link?
    I've asked you multiple times to stop making arguments when you have no idea what you're talking about. You've been rather persistent in ignoring that request.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lee_merrill View Post
    No, he's saying that origin-of-life researchers are vastly inflating their claims.


    No, he is not arguing for the negative, he is not saying how life originated, he is only saying we don't know.

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    That is indeed an argument for the negative!!!! He is making arguments claiming as his basis what he claims scientists do not know.

    Again . . .

    He has presented no published papers where he consulted with biologists or geneticists concerning his hypothesis. What research has he published to support his hypothesis?

    There is a problem with hypothesis that propose the negative as to why something cannot happen or it is unlikely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shunyadragon View Post
    There is a problem with hypothesis that propose the negative as to why something cannot happen or it is unlikely.
    Tour is not saying abiogenesis cannot happen, he does say the problem is hard, which I think is generally acknowledged. But he has published articles discussing these issues with biologists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLurch View Post
    I've asked you multiple times to stop making arguments when you have no idea what you're talking about. You've been rather persistent in ignoring that request.
    I'm talking about talks and books addressed to the general public, and I do have an idea what the arguments are. Did you watch the debate, and do you have a comment on it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HMS_Beagle View Post
    Posting links to support points made is perfectly acceptable at TWeb.
    But you haven't made any points, would you please respond to what I quoted from James Tour?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lee_merrill View Post
    But you haven't made any points,
    Of course I have and I provided support too. Just none you're honest enough to acknowledge. I will give you credit, when it comes to knee-jerk supporting professional Liars For Jesus like Tour and Behe you are consistent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lee_merrill View Post
    I'm talking about talks and books addressed to the general public, and I do have an idea what the arguments are. Did you watch the debate, and do you have a comment on it?
    I was referring to you activities in the other thread you were participating, where you claimed to know something about gene regulation, but were clearly just making stuff up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HMS_Beagle View Post
    Of course I have and I provided support too. Just none you're honest enough to acknowledge.
    What points have you made, though? Aside from ad hominems, which don't count as discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLurch View Post
    I was referring to you activities in the other thread you were participating, where you claimed to know something about gene regulation, but were clearly just making stuff up.
    Well, take me back to that other thread and correct my misunderstandings, then. Let's discuss Tour's debate in this thread, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lee_merrill View Post
    What points have you made, though? Aside from ad hominems, which don't count as discussion.

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    Sarcasm and name-calling aren't ad hominems, Lee. I took me a while to learn that but it is true.

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