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    Quote Originally Posted by mossrose View Post
    And yet, in the early first century (and even today in other countries where persecution is present), believers met secretly in small groups. I think the Lord goes not judge us for where we worship in times of distress but how we worship.

    Church is absolutely essential, but we are also to obey the government when they do not directly go against God's directives to us. Church will return with normal gatherings eventually.
    They still met together, in union with each other by coming together physically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simplicio View Post
    They still met together, in union with each other by coming together physically.

    Yes, I did say that. But under the circumstances in which we find ourselves in right now, and with the technology we have, I don't think the Lord is going to hold us accused of not assembling together if we are still involved in some sort of worship.

    As I also said, the time will come again when we can meet together again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mossrose View Post
    And yet, in the early first century (and even today in other countries where persecution is present), believers met secretly in small groups. I think the Lord goes not judge us for where we worship in times of distress but how we worship.
    They met. Neither the size of the gathering nor the physical setting matters. What matters is the sort of human interaction that can't be replaced by a screen.


    Church is absolutely essential, but we are also to obey the government when they do not directly go against God's directives to us. Church will return with normal gatherings eventually.
    I believe this will lead to an increased tendency toward insularism, and the idea that church is all about music and message, and not about real fellowship and interaction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles View Post
    So, what is your suggestion? Should Christians gather in large numbers at the risk of spreading the virus?
    We should gather. I have some qualms about the appropriateness of "large numbers" regardless of the virus. Large gatherings certainly evoke a sense of awe, but they are not conducive to the sorts of interaction and intimate fellowship we see modeled in the NT.


    And should other religious groups be allowed to do the same?
    Yes, First Amendment rights should be fully respected. IMO, the Bill of Rights *is* a "suicide pact."
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    And BTW, I fully acknowledge my own hypocrisy in this matter. For various reasons, including a bit of social anxiety I've developed, I have not "gone to church" regularly in some years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorrinRadd View Post
    And BTW, I fully acknowledge my own hypocrisy in this matter. For various reasons, including a bit of social anxiety I've developed, I have not "gone to church" regularly in some years.
    That is not hypocrisy. You are allowed to hold your opinion regardles of that.

    I disagree with you with you and I think it would be wrong - given the actual knowledge we have got - for people to meet in church or in other religious communities putting other people's life at risk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    Would you consider church to be essential/indispensable for yourself, essential/indespensable for christianity, or essential/indispensable for society as a whole?
    Both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorrinRadd View Post
    They met. Neither the size of the gathering nor the physical setting matters. What matters is the sort of human interaction that can't be replaced by a screen.
    That's true. But I consider this a temporary situation. Are you suggesting that we continue to gather in large groups during this time of infection?




    I believe this will lead to an increased tendency toward insularism, and the idea that church is all about music and message, and not about real fellowship and interaction.

    Maybe. Maybe not. People might be so thankful to gather together again that there will be no difference in how it will be then than it was before.


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    Quote Originally Posted by simplicio View Post
    But was is the question "Is church nonessential" a leading question? In case you have not read the news, church is effectively treated as nonessential.
    I think churches are being treated as a place where large bodies of people gather and thus need to be closed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
    I think churches are being treated as a place where large bodies of people gather and thus need to be closed.
    Man cannot live by bread alone.

    We are finding ways to respect the social distancing directives, is it possible to include social distancing with communal worship?

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