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Reuters: Five days of worship that set a virus time bomb in France
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Originally posted by mikewhitney View PostOBP has reasonably responded to the original post. The original post was a hit piece on Christians but the timing makes the event a nothing burger. There are other groups who would deserve more scrutiny.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostIt is not a hit piece on Christians. It is a report on facts about what happened. You guys need to get past the idea that media is out to get you and is always unfair. The responses to the op are so very, very revealing. Certain facts are unwelcome. You are seemingly unable to interpret it is anything but a hit piece. Quite a biased reading.
ok. we can just say this article was a nothing burger and close the thread then. What else could be said about it?
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Originally posted by mikewhitney View Postok. we can just say this article was a nothing burger and close the thread then. What else could be said about it?
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Originally posted by Charles View PostAnd yet another mainly off topic response. Seems it is very, very hard for some of you to talk about the topic. If you want to talk about other topics start a new thread and leave this one.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostSo not only do you want to restrict all responses to just the one smaller and earlier event and ignore all others but you also only want certain sort of reactions to it as well.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostIf 2500 cases is a nothing burger to you, you are free to spend your time in other threads. However, it rather seems few of you actually regard it as a nothing burger since there is such a huge wish to misrepresent it or talk about something else.
Do you simply want to say that the government did not prepare people for this virus situation?
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Originally posted by Charles View PostThat simply does not follow from what I wrote. But you managed to create more noise. Seems the story is really bothering some of you.
Hindsight 20-20 we can all tell that things would have been better off without that meeting, however at the time what they did wasn't unreasonable. It serves as a historical trace of the virus, but can't be used to condemn that crowd.
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Originally posted by mikewhitney View PostYou will have to explain how this meeting was improper at that point in time. And the number of cases is not the big issue. The number of deaths is general concern.
Do you simply want to say that the government did not prepare people for this virus situation?
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Originally posted by Charles View PostThat simply does not follow from what I wrote. But you managed to create more noise. Seems the story is really bothering some of you.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Charles View PostI have not once said it was improper so I wonder what I need to explain.
Please explain why we are discussing this article or why this article has meaning to you.
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostActually we're just putting the story in context. For some reason you don't like that. The story is compared with other similar stories. That is fair game.
Originally posted by Leonhard View PostHindsight 20-20 we can all tell that things would have been better off without that meeting, however at the time what they did wasn't unreasonable. It serves as a historical trace of the virus, but can't be used to condemn that crowd.
So, though I don't completely agree with you, or perhaps rather think you misunderstood my intention to some extent, your post was helpful to put the right words on the perspectives of the thread. Thank you.
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Originally posted by Charles View Postit serves as a historical trace. A historical trace that is relevant with regard to other dicussions on tweb about wheter religious societies should meet under these circumstances
As everyone has pointed out, this congregation took place before the guidelines and restrictions. So it cannot really serve as anything of an example, except as a study of population dynamics.
It would also be an error to zero in on religious communities.
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostThis is where we part ways, and where I have to agree with Rogue06. How would you use this example at all? The response of a government to threat of a pandemic has to be measured and proportional. At this time, governments were still deciding whether to close things down or not. I'm not sure we can extract a lesson here about what religious communities should or should not be doing, since at the time they were acting in good faith and acting according to the law and what was permitted.
As everyone has pointed out, this congregation took place before the guidelines and restrictions. So it cannot really serve as anything of an example, except as a study of population dynamics.
It would also be an error to zero in on religious communities.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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