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  • Crew on U.S. Aircraft carrier test positive for Coronavirus.

    Members of a U.S Aircraft Carrier, off the coast of Guam, have tested positive for coronavirus. There are 4000 crew members on board, 150 of which have tested positive for the virus since last week when 3 cases had been confirmed.



    http://nypost.com/2020/03/31/aircraf...irus-outbreak/
    Last edited by JimL; 03-31-2020, 08:27 PM.

  • #2
    Originally posted by JimL View Post
    Members of a U.S Aircraft Carrier, off the coast of Guam, have tested positive for coronavirus. There are 4000 crew members on board, 150 of which have tested positive for the virus since last week when 3 cases had been confirmed.
    Demi heard that they are not releasing the numbers from the military any more.
    Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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    • #3
      The Captain wants to quarantine the crew on Guam where the ship is stationed, but Guam hasn't nearly the medical facilities, or equipment to be able to handle it. They have only about 20 ICU beds altogether. apparently 1000 of the crew have been taken off the ship. In the meanwhile the 3000 sailors remaining on board are crowded together in very tight quarters.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by JimL View Post
        The Captain wants to quarantine the crew on Guam where the ship is stationed, but Guam hasn't nearly the medical facilities, or equipment to be able to handle it. They have only about 20 ICU beds altogether. apparently 1000 of the crew have been taken off the ship. In the meanwhile the 3000 sailors remaining on board are crowded together in very tight quarters.
        This should be classified, but someone is leaking. Does no one understand "Don't Tell"???
        Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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        • #5
          Best part of the article
          Lawrence Korb, a retired Navy captain and a former assistant secretary of defense in the Reagan administration, told the Chronicle that it is “very unusual” for a ship’s captain to issue a letter like Crozier’s — as they are typically on the career track to becoming admiral.

          “It shows that this is a person who is putting the welfare of his sailors ahead of his career,” Korb said.
          Unusual to have a captain put his career behind the welfare of his men. Sad, but not surprising.
          Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
            Best part of the article


            Unusual to have a captain put his career behind the welfare of his men. Sad, but not surprising.
            Well, he's doing the right thing, of course, but I don't think something like this could've been kept quiet anyway.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
              Best part of the article

              Unusual to have a captain put his career behind the welfare of his men. Sad, but not surprising.
              Unusual? I suppose you get your knowledge of military from reruns of MASH.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by JimL View Post
                Well, he's doing the right thing, of course, but I don't think something like this could've been kept quiet anyway.
                The captain was fired, for leaking? Does no one understand "Don't Tell"???
                Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
                  The captain was fired, for leaking? Does no one understand "Don't Tell"???
                  From what I understand the letter was not his first request to save the men and women under his command, so I'm sure he understood that by making it public he was putting his career on the line for them. The truth will come out eventually.

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                  • #10
                    On point comment I saw elsewhere:

                    An officer that murders non-combatants - Pardoned

                    An officer that saves servicemen and women under his command - Fired

                    This is the moral universe the GOP has forced us into. Thanks, Trump.
                    "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                    "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                    "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                      On point comment I saw elsewhere:

                      An officer that murders non-combatants - Pardoned

                      An officer that saves servicemen and women under his command - Fired

                      This is the moral universe the GOP has forced us into. Thanks, Trump.
                      This wasn't anything Trump did. This was purely a military decision. It would have happened the same under Obama.

                      Basically from what I understand, the reason he is in trouble is because he sent out his letter unencrypted and it was leaked and publicized, which is a security breach. He basically let it be known that one of the USA's most powerful assets, with nuclear missiles, etc, was compromised and vulnerable. He didn't even talk to his own commander who was onboard the ship before doing it.

                      I think his concern for his crew is admirable (no pun intended) and his heart was in the right place. He just didn't do it in the right way.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                        This wasn't anything Trump did. This was purely a military decision. It would have happened the same under Obama.
                        And you seriously believe that? Trump is the commander and chief, Captain Crozier in an effort to save his crew, became a whistleblower, and we know what Trump does to whistleblowers. Btw, Trump just fired the IG who made sure that the whistleblowers message concerning the Ukraine/Biden extortion scheme was relayed to Congress. Trump gets rid of non-loyalist whistleblowers.
                        Basically from what I understand, the reason he is in trouble is because he sent out his letter unencrypted and it was leaked and publicized, which is a security breach. He basically let it be known that one of the USA's most powerful assets, with nuclear missiles, etc, was compromised and vulnerable. He didn't even talk to his own commander who was onboard the ship before doing it.
                        Well, that's the spin, but you don't know any of that. For all we know putting his career on the line was a last resort to save the lives of his crew, and his crew gave him a heros send off for that. The secretary of the Navy, Modley, is a Trump loyalist, put in place of the secretary of the Navy that Trump had fired for speaking truth to power in the navy seal military trial case that Trump interfered in as well.
                        I think his concern for his crew is admirable (no pun intended) and his heart was in the right place. He just didn't do it in the right way.
                        Again, you don't know that, and it is difficult to believe that he didn't "do it the right way" before sending out an sos.
                        Last edited by JimL; 04-04-2020, 01:06 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by JimL View Post
                          And you seriously believe that? Trump is the commander and chief, Captain Crozier in an effort to save his crew, became a whistleblower, and we know what Trump does to whistleblowers. Btw, Trump just fired the IG who made sure that the whistleblowers message concerning the Ukraine/Biden extortion scheme was relayed to Congress. Trump gets rid of non-loyalist whistleblowers.

                          Well, that's the spin, but you don't know any of that. For all we know putting his career on the line was a last resort to save the lives of his crew, and his crew gave him a heros send off for that. The secretary of the Navy, Modley, is a Trump loyalist, put in place of the secretary of the Navy that Trump had fired for speaking truth to power in the navy seal military trial case that Trump interfered in as well.

                          Again, you don't know that, and it is difficult to believe that he didn't "do it the right way" before sending out an sos.
                          I know what the news has reported and saw interviews with Mark Esper. I think he did the right thing but in the wrong way. You don't go public with something like that without permission.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                            I know what the news has reported and saw interviews with Mark Esper. I think he did the right thing but in the wrong way. You don't go public with something like that without permission.
                            If 150 men are sick, and the virus is quickly spreading, and btw the captain tested positive himself, and nothing is being done about it, then he did the only right thing he could do. And his crew certainly agreed with him.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by JimL View Post
                              If 150 men are sick, and the virus is quickly spreading, and btw the captain tested positive himself, and nothing is being done about it, then he did the only right thing he could do. And his crew certainly agreed with him.
                              He could have not copied private individuals outside of the chain of command. He could have talked to his own superior who was on the same ship.

                              The military is funny about that whole chain of command thingy. strange.

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