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Originally posted by seanD View PostYou're comparing apples to oranges. The forum is a place to express ideas and views, nothing more, and we have a finite amount of time to do it. We don't get to do that in the REAL world as often and as extensive as we do here. Sometimes various opinions will get heated. Get over it.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWhat's 'derogatory' about telling you to have a wonderful day, Jim?My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostHave a good day CP
Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post...And before you go on a rampage against me personally....
Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostEvery post you've made to me has been derogatory since you returned to civics. So don't pretend to be outraged...
Get well, Jim.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Terraceth View PostI'll admit it, I laughed.
One day she had been visiting the church office, she dropped off her tithe, and was checking to see what she could bake for an upcoming church social.
When she was ready to leave, I walked her to the door, opened it for her, and as she stepped out onto the porch, I said, "Have a good day, Ms Smith".
She SPUN AROUND with a very ANGRY look, stuck her bony finger in my face, and spurted "Young man, DON'T you tell me what kind of day to have!"
I was stunned, didn't know what to say... then she started laughing and said "you kids are SO easy!!!"The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostOn the other hand, why would Christian persons find a need to express ideas in ways that are mean and cruel? And even more to the point, why would they dig in and try to justify it when called on it?
And before you go on a rampage against me personally, I'm calling out my own violations as well as others. I am NOT saying I haven't done the same thing.
So I ask the question of ALL: Why do WE who name the name of Christ find it necessary to be rude, nasty, cruel, demeaning, etc when we are expressing what we believe to be true in these conversations?"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI asked a question because it doesn't appear he is an Evangelical -- capital E.
That's an incredibly dishonest rendition of my actual quote which was...
However, he probably won't even try to defend his goofy assertion that Fea is an Evangelical.
And, yet again, the manure spreader malfunctioned and threw the whole load all at once!
Why are you fixated on the capital E? The ambiguities of the English language come into play here, a religious group is typically capitalized, a descriptive of religious groups is not. Evangelical is both: Some point to definitions like a Bebbington square.
Was MLK a Bible Christian or not? Could a black progressive Baptist preacher write Letter from a Birmingham Jail without resorting to plagiarism? Did MLK plagiarize his famous Letter? Are progressive Christians really saved? Does the Holy Spirit work among messengers at the annual conventions?
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Originally posted by simplicio View PostIt was not any rendition, it was a question which pointed out the absurdity of asking for the credentials of John Fea. Just how can one demonstrate that anyone is an evangelical? It cannot be done, you and others always chime in with an objection.
Why are you fixated on the capital E?
The ambiguities of the English language come into play here, a religious group is typically capitalized, a descriptive of religious groups is not. Evangelical is both: Some point to definitions like a Bebbington square.
Was MLK a Bible Christian or not? Could a black progressive Baptist preacher write Letter from a Birmingham Jail without resorting to plagiarism? Did MLK plagiarize his famous Letter? Are progressive Christians really saved? Does the Holy Spirit work among messengers at the annual conventions?
Why are you so angry?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by EvoUK View PostWhat is the significant difference between the capital E and lower case e? Asking for a friend.
I’m an evangelical Christian (small-e), but not an Evangelical Christian (capital-E). The difference is this: “evangelical” means that we share the Gospel, the Good News about the redemption God offers through Jesus’ sacrifice. “Evangelical” refers to a specific set of views that have come to be lumped together since the latter half of the twentieth century, suggesting a particular agenda blending patriotism, religion, and politics.
Pretty much, when you capitalize it, you're referring to the "right wing" evangelicals.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by EvoUK View PostWhat is the significant difference between the capital E and lower case e? Asking for a friend.
There is another distinct usage that I want to comment upon. When one capitalizes “Evangelical,” it takes on another usage.
This “Evangelical” denotes part of the coalition of churches, associations and denominations that were spawned by the Evangelical Alliance of the mid-19th century. It became fashionable to be part of an international coalition, to be in the doctrinally defined wing of major denominations: Evangelical Presbyterians, Lutherans, Methodists, Disciples, Baptists and so on.
However, there are other usages of "Evangelical". Matthew W. Kingsbury wrote:
Alert readers may have noticed the unusual capitalization of "Evangelical" and "Evangelicalism" in a couple of the articles. The stylebooks frown on this, because Evangelicalism is a movement and not an official body, but we do it to give Evangelicalism a kind of typographic equality with Catholicism and Orthodoxy. http://presbyteriancurmudgeon.blogsp...elicalism.html
4 a capitalized : of or relating to the Evangelical Church in Germany
b often capitalized : of, adhering to, or marked by fundamentalism : FUNDAMENTALIST
c often capitalized : LOW CHURCH https://www.merriam-webster.com/dict...al#other-words
We here at First Things capitalize “Evangelical,” not least because it so often appears alongside Catholic and we want a kind of visual parity, and also because they should not have the word to themselves. https://www.firstthings.com/blogs/fi...italize-or-notLast edited by Charles; 04-08-2020, 03:21 PM."Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostSo you can tell your friend that the answer will, to some extent, depend on who you are asking.
You're welcome.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostIt was my joy to educate you on the fact that there's actually a difference.
You're welcome.
You're welcome.Last edited by Charles; 04-08-2020, 03:57 PM."Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostIt was my joy to educate you on the fact that the difference is actually not necessarily the one you suggested and that the use of capital "E" or not is certainly not as simple as you presented it in your answer based on quora.
Originally posted by Charles View PostMessiah College historian John Fea, himself an Evangelical,...
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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