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    80,000 Deaths...

    If we keep our numbers under 80,000 deaths given that we had some very high end estimates: 200,00 to 2,000,000 - would you consider that a success?
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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    If we keep our numbers under 80,000 deaths given that we had some very high end estimates: 200,00 to 2,000,000 - would you consider that a success?
    Considering one year the flu deaths were 64,000, I would say yes.

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    Picking a number and saying, "Below this is success; over this is failure," is entirely arbitrary and makes the assumption that we could necessarily keep it below that number.
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    Success would have been the world sealing borders properly and fast enough such that there were never any cases outside of China.

    All the deaths, all the mass quarantines, all the lost jobs, all the bailouts, are a result of the failure to act fast enough to block the international spread of it.

    No, 80,000 deaths is not "success". We have 1 death here in NZ, and I consider that a failure... it should never have reached our country in the first place. In the US you have 100x the population of NZ, so 100 deaths for you I would consider a failure. So 80,000 deaths would be 800x a failure.

    However it appears to me that the US is taking totally inadequate actions to contain the spread so it wouldn't surprise me if a significant fraction of the total US population (e.g. a third) ends up getting the virus. That would be around a million deaths if that happened. That would be an epic failure on a scale rarely seen in history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    If we keep our numbers under 80,000 deaths given that we had some very high end estimates: 200,00 to 2,000,000 - would you consider that a success?
    It would be another successful prediction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlight View Post
    Success would have been the world sealing borders properly and fast enough such that there were never any cases outside of China.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimbulb View Post
    We have 1 death here in NZ, and I consider that a failure...
    So you're of the "No solution is too extreme if it prevents even a single death" mindset. China found that literally sealing people into their homes was an excellent means of preventing infected people from entering the population. I imagine that saved a lot of lives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlight View Post
    Success would have been the world sealing borders properly and fast enough such that there were never any cases outside of China.
    That's rayyyycisssst!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    If we keep our numbers under 80,000 deaths given that we had some very high end estimates: 200,00 to 2,000,000 - would you consider that a success?
    It is a success only in that we didn't it wasn't worse. But had the appropriate steps been taken early on, then the total number of cases need not gave been that high. Let alone deaths.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seanD View Post
    That's rayyyycisssst!!!
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