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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    Apparently the thinking is
    I predict this post will prove your lack of thinking...

    anyone who has some underlying illness, or is just old, they were going to die anyway, as if they know that, so let's not count them.
    Yep - absolutely moronic.

    Anything to defend Trumps messaging to them that it's a hoax!
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    Quote Originally Posted by demi-conservative View Post
    It is useless because without serology you don't know the total number of cases. The first patient was found sick 11 days after the cruise began, and how many patients got it and recovered within that period are unknown.



    Stop crying and parroting R0 values. There have been no full test studies with serology, so R0 has not been measured accurately, and neither has fatality rate.
    You didn't even read the article (or the many others available on the topic) did you? You're shooting from the 'we can't know anything all because <insert excuse here>' hip that YEC's hail from. It is what it is - but you do yourself and everyone that might take you seriously a great disservice by doing so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by demi-conservative View Post
    Let's try this analogy. Compare a candle that you burn from both ends to the same candle that you burn from one end. One burns faster, but the same amount of wax is burnt when all is said and done.

    Fatality rate is about number of deaths/number of cases. Faster spread increases both the numerator and denominator and doesn't necessarily mean a higher fatality rate.
    yeah but again, the problem is the number of sick people at once. Which is why we are running out of masks, ventilators, doctors are working around the clock, etc. That is why they are trying to spread it out more.

    When you burn a candle at both ends you get a shorter length of light and you will likely get burned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by demi-conservative View Post
    And how much of this is because testing is increasing?
    testing doesn't affect how many are dying. Look at the deaths. We are at flu level deaths in just over a month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    What an incredibly moronic misguided conclusion.
    True, and it came from you. Oh, they died from a heart attack so they shouldn't be counted as coronavirus victims. That's your moronic conclusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    testing doesn't affect how many are dying. Look at the deaths. We are at flu level deaths in just over a month.
    Testing absolutely affects the deaths recorded. If you're not tested before or after you die but you're positive, you're just not recorded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    yeah but again, the problem is the number of sick people at once.
    In other parts of the country, doctors are being laid off because of insufficient patients. With good management, doctor overload is not an issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    You didn't even read the article (or the many others available on the topic) did you? You're shooting from the 'we can't know anything all because <insert excuse here>' hip that YEC's hail from. It is what it is - but you do yourself and everyone that might take you seriously a great disservice by doing so.
    You have nothing of worth to contribute, leave now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    True, and it came from you. Oh, they died from a heart attack so they shouldn't be counted as coronavirus victims. That's your moronic conclusion.
    Ummmm, wow. Do you really think you can take a true Christian's argument seriously, as if he actually believes it?

    Just because a poster makes an argument does not mean he actually believes it, especially when it is used to put down others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    It means all the models and projections ...
    ... need to be updated with better data, and not just this time, every time better data becomes available. We don't throw out an equation because a number needs to be adjusted. That's a general principle. In this case, we could go further and note the wrong number doesn't appear to be an egregious error. The infection arrived in Seattle in January, and spread from there, independent of the date the first infection arrived in New York.

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