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    Quote Originally Posted by demi-conservative View Post
    So if governments prohibited all religious gatherings but not Christian ones in particular, that's okay with you? If the prohibition lasts at least 18 months, that's okay?
    Christians should be law abiding citizens. I don't want to end up in jail or have to go to court. The only exception for me will be if I have to deny Christ. Then I will have to go the whole way and even have my head chopped off etc. Otherwise no. Will not break the law of the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Esther View Post
    Christians should be law abiding citizens. I don't want to end up in jail or have to go to court. The only exception for me will be if I have to deny Christ. Then I will have to go the whole way and even have my head chopped off etc. Otherwise no. Will not break the law of the country.
    Christians meeting was made illegal in the first century too, by the Romans and Jews. Paul started out as someone who hunted down Christians. The Christians met anyway, in homes and in secret. They were breaking the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
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    Is this guy supposed to be in here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by seanD View Post
    Is this guy supposed to be in here?
    Nope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    Christians meeting was made illegal in the first century too, by the Romans and Jews. Paul started out as someone who hunted down Christians. The Christians met anyway, in homes and in secret. They were breaking the law.
    I think you and Esther just made a nice demostration of how two Christians can disagree.

    I think this is an area which each Christian needs to decide when obeying Christ means disobeying the government. I certainly don't know where that point is but I know it exists. I guess it's one of those we'll know when we see it events.
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    I was closely following the controversy regarding the drive in church services in Louisville. I believe the mayor of Louisville *was* picking on Christians because he didn't ban drive thru restaurants. His rationale was that a previous drive thru church service had people get closer than six feet, but given that people make physical contact when paying at drive thru restaurants, that rationale doesn't fly with me.

    The good news is that the church sued and a federal judge ruled in favor of the church. So the legal system still works. It's certainly a good thing that Christians are willing to push back when the government overreaches, and that they're working within the system to get the rules changed for all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Esther View Post
    Christians should be law abiding citizens. I don't want to end up in jail or have to go to court. The only exception for me will be if I have to deny Christ. Then I will have to go the whole way and even have my head chopped off etc. Otherwise no. Will not break the law of the country.
    What about breaking "laws" and gubernatorial edicts in order to uphold the higher authority of the Constitution, the "supreme law of the land"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorrinRadd View Post
    What about breaking "laws" and gubernatorial edicts in order to uphold the higher authority of the Constitution, the "supreme law of the land"?
    I am not qualified to answer questions with words such as, "gubernatorial" in them. My law abiding stance is a simple one. I am a law abiding citizen. If the law demands that I deny Christ or starts persecuting Christians then I will have to revise my stance of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Esther View Post
    I am not qualified to answer questions with words such as, "gubernatorial" in them.


    Ok. "Gubernatorial" means "involving or coming from a governor." Many people believe that the decrees coming from various governors, such as Dear Leader Wolf of Pennsylvania, are excessive and illegal because they violate various protections guaranteed by the Constitution. Other governors, such as Kentucky's and especially governor Half-Whitmer of MI, are worse.


    My law abiding stance is a simple one. I am a law abiding citizen. If the law demands that I deny Christ or starts persecuting Christians then I will have to revise my stance of course.
    Ok. Unfortunately, I am unable to view almost anything as "simple."
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