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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    more ad hom
    The Daily Fail promotes barely-there bikini pics on its front page. You're the owner of a Christian-run site, defending your decision to post from there despite having said yourself that the information is widely available elsewhere.

    You can easily find the same material elsewhere.

    Then do so.

    That was my source.
    That would be so much more convincing if you'd left a link.

    WHO continues to advise against the application of travel or trade restrictions to countries experiencing COVID-19 outbreaks.

    And avoided cropping it immediately before you were contradicted.

    In general, evidence shows that restricting the movement of people and goods during public health emergencies is ineffective in most situations and may divert resources from other interventions. Furthermore, restrictions may interrupt needed aid and technical support, may disrupt businesses, and may have negative social and economic effects on the affected countries. However, in certain circumstances, measures that restrict the movement of people may prove temporarily useful, such as in settings with few international connections and limited response capacities.

    I'll grant you the benefit of the doubt, that you actually didn't read any further. Hell, it's hard to get you to read an entire o/p. There's no way to avoid noting the shifted goalposts.

    Do you know that they are still saying we never should have stopped international travel from China?

    No, they didn't.

    Travel measures that significantly interfere with international traffic may only be justified at the beginning of an outbreak, as they may allow countries to gain time, even if only a few days, to rapidly implement effective preparedness measures. Such restrictions must be based on a careful risk assessment, be proportionate to the public health risk, be short in duration, and be reconsidered regularly as the situation evolves.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    again, read your own source:
    And now that everyone is saying wearing a mask is useful they are still advising against wearing them.

    v.

    If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19.

    v.

    If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19.
    Wear a mask if you are coughing or sneezing.
    Masks are effective only when used in combination with frequent hand-cleaning with alcohol-based hand rub or soap and water.
    If you wear a mask, then you must know how to use it and dispose of it properly.

    There's a pattern in the cropping here, but I'm not objecting to the misrepresentations so much as the conspiracy theories.

    It's like they want the pandemic to get worse. Job security?

    There's no missing the fact these attacks on the WHO and Fauci et al. are directly linked to their contradictions of the president, a guy who's mooted the hyperbole of claiming a man would lie about the weather.

    If you really want to make the pandemic get worse, there's no better strategy than attacking the front line defenders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juvenal View Post
    The Daily Fail promotes barely-there bikini pics on its front page. You're the owner of a Christian-run site, defending your decision to post from there despite having said yourself that the information is widely available elsewhere.
    Personally, if I were you, I'd be far more concerned about how that fish wrapper you venerate has degenerated down to a level that it has become increasingly difficult to distinguish from the National Enquirer (they're just one Bigfoot-is-the-father-of-my-child story away).

    It's the whole plank in the eye thing.

    I'm always still in trouble again

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    Personally, if I were you ...
    You'd be thinking this thread has seen enough trolling from the moderation team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juvenal View Post
    The Daily Fail promotes barely-there bikini pics on its front page. You're the owner of a Christian-run site, defending your decision to post from there despite having said yourself that the information is widely available elsewhere.

    You can easily find the same material elsewhere.

    Then do so.



    That would be so much more convincing if you'd left a link.

    WHO continues to advise against the application of travel or trade restrictions to countries experiencing COVID-19 outbreaks.

    And avoided cropping it immediately before you were contradicted.

    In general, evidence shows that restricting the movement of people and goods during public health emergencies is ineffective in most situations and may divert resources from other interventions. Furthermore, restrictions may interrupt needed aid and technical support, may disrupt businesses, and may have negative social and economic effects on the affected countries. However, in certain circumstances, measures that restrict the movement of people may prove temporarily useful, such as in settings with few international connections and limited response capacities.

    I'll grant you the benefit of the doubt, that you actually didn't read any further. Hell, it's hard to get you to read an entire o/p. There's no way to avoid noting the shifted goalposts.

    Do you know that they are still saying we never should have stopped international travel from China?

    No, they didn't.

    Travel measures that significantly interfere with international traffic may only be justified at the beginning of an outbreak, as they may allow countries to gain time, even if only a few days, to rapidly implement effective preparedness measures. Such restrictions must be based on a careful risk assessment, be proportionate to the public health risk, be short in duration, and be reconsidered regularly as the situation evolves.



    And now that everyone is saying wearing a mask is useful they are still advising against wearing them.

    v.

    If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19.

    v.

    If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19.
    Wear a mask if you are coughing or sneezing.
    Masks are effective only when used in combination with frequent hand-cleaning with alcohol-based hand rub or soap and water.
    If you wear a mask, then you must know how to use it and dispose of it properly.

    There's a pattern in the cropping here, but I'm not objecting to the misrepresentations so much as the conspiracy theories.

    It's like they want the pandemic to get worse. Job security?

    There's no missing the fact these attacks on the WHO and Fauci et al. are directly linked to their contradictions of the president, a guy who's mooted the hyperbole of claiming a man would lie about the weather.

    If you really want to make the pandemic get worse, there's no better strategy than attacking the front line defenders.
    Well said. The conservative media is against any person with expertise that contradicts the President. They exist to feed Trump's ego, And Trump's ego can not abide being told his 'gut' is wrong. Especially by someone whose opinion garners respect over and above Trump by the mere fact they are qualified experts and men of integrity. Fauci is just such a person.
    He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me."

    "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juvenal View Post
    Like "Shoo, fly," maybe?



    Bold plan. Let's make it happen.

    Cow Poke is not able to moderate his own behavior, and believes it's acceptable for a moderator to wreck serious discussions. Because this is a long-standing issue, and because the board software doesn't allow him to be placed on the quick-scrolling list, where he belongs, I'm once again asking Cow Poke to resign from staff.

    Where he can still attempt to wreck discussions, but we can ignore it.
    You seem to be on one of your being a complete and utter jerk trips again. Please stop. If I were to ask anyone to leave at this point it would be you. Again, please stop.
    Last edited by Sparko; 05-15-2020 at 08:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juvenal View Post

    WHO continues to advise against the application of travel or trade restrictions to countries experiencing COVID-19 outbreaks.

    And avoided cropping it immediately before you were contradicted.

    In general, evidence shows that restricting the movement of people and goods during public health emergencies is ineffective in most situations and may divert resources from other interventions. Furthermore, restrictions may interrupt needed aid and technical support, may disrupt businesses, and may have negative social and economic effects on the affected countries. However, in certain circumstances, measures that restrict the movement of people may prove temporarily useful, such as in settings with few international connections and limited response capacities.
    Bolding mine. They are still against what the US and other countries did by shutting down all flights from China. Any reading of their release shows that they are advising against any country shutting down international travel.



    I'll grant you the benefit of the doubt, that you actually didn't read any further. Hell, it's hard to get you to read an entire o/p. There's no way to avoid noting the shifted goalposts.

    Do you know that they are still saying we never should have stopped international travel from China?

    No, they didn't.
    Yuh, they did.

    Travel measures that significantly interfere with international traffic may only be justified at the beginning of an outbreak, as they may allow countries to gain time, even if only a few days, to rapidly implement effective preparedness measures. Such restrictions must be based on a careful risk assessment, be proportionate to the public health risk, be short in duration, and be reconsidered regularly as the situation evolves.
    short in duration. LOL.



    And now that everyone is saying wearing a mask is useful they are still advising against wearing them.

    v.

    If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19.

    v.

    If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19.
    Wear a mask if you are coughing or sneezing.
    Masks are effective only when used in combination with frequent hand-cleaning with alcohol-based hand rub or soap and water.
    If you wear a mask, then you must know how to use it and dispose of it properly.

    There's a pattern in the cropping here, but I'm not objecting to the misrepresentations so much as the conspiracy theories.
    Again, how do you know if you are healthy, jerk? They are advising against people wearing masks unless they are sick. But the current advice is to wear a mask always in public, by everyone, including "healthy" people because you could be asymptomatic. If you followed the WHO's advice the virus would spread faster because asymptomatic people would be going around spreading it.

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    Austrian study seems to imply it was mad-made as the best and most likely explanation.

    Remember, I'm just the messenger

    From how I understood it, they're saying the closest possibility out of all species was pangolin to human, but that even this doesn't present the necessary evidence to demonstrate that that happened. But I'm an idiot on the subject, so maybe those with more knowledge about this can parse it and tell me where I'm wrong.
    "I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole, it was like... we had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment." - Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State (source).

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