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Lab Leak: The conspiracy theory is shaping up to look like real possibility

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  • Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
    From the National Review article



    Yuge amount of spin.
    why are you afraid put the link to the article Demi?

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    • Originally posted by RumTumTugger View Post
      why are you afraid put the link to the article Demi?
      I think he is referring to my link earlier.

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      • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
        Nothing hypocritical - and you are not my friend...
        Yeah, I can't possibly hate Trump enough to be your friend.
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
          Jim, where do you think the "local officials" get their marching orders? You really think they have any degree of autonomy at all?
          Just how totalitarian do you think China is? Note the uproar on social media over the response by the Wuhan government.

          The response to past epidemics caused much criticism of the government from both within China and without. The tensions between openness, with the potential of spreading unsound rumors via social media, and tight control of information to ensure scientific precision, to portray competence is a continual problem which governments need to resolve, even for the US.
          Last edited by simplicio; 04-17-2020, 04:53 PM.

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          • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
            Nobody is claiming it is genetically engineered. But that they were studying coronaviruses in a lab and one of the researchers got infected and spread the virus into the wild.

            And if you watch that video Starlight posted, seems like there is a lot of circumstantial evidence that is what happened. And ever paper I have read says it was transmitted from horseshoe bats.
            I watched the video, and it remains hypothetical, and circumstantial evidence does not stand the test of evidence. There is no record of lab personnel getting the virus early, The consumption of the wild animals and the transmission of coronaviruses to humans has a long history. This one just started a pandemic.

            The genetic research publications I presented are based on science, and the conclusions are most likely natural origins. The most likely animal has matching DNA and is sold and consumed in Wuhan via the Wuhan market.

            Statement form the administration:

            Source: https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/493083-us-officials-investigating-whether-coronavirus-originated-in-chinese



            The theory, which has not yet been corroborated, is reportedly one of multiple possibilities the U.S. is investigating.

            The latest developments come days after the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Army Gen. Mark Milley, told reporters that the U.S. intelligence community was taking "a hard look" at the theory.

            "I would just say, at this point, it's inconclusive, although the weight of evidence seems to indicate natural [origin]. But we don't know for certain," he said, referring to the likelihood that the virus originated naturally, rather than in a lab setting.

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            Last edited by shunyadragon; 04-17-2020, 05:10 PM.
            Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
            Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
            But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

            go with the flow the river knows . . .

            Frank

            I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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            • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
              Yeah, I can't possibly hate Trump enough to be your friend.
              I hope you feel edified.

              shrug

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              • Originally posted by simplicio View Post
                I hope you feel edified.

                shrug
                By Jim's poop screed?
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • Originally posted by simplicio View Post
                  Just how totalitarian do you think China is?....
                  You're right - they're the perfect form of democracy with liberty and justice for all.
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                    You're right - they're the perfect form of democracy with liberty and justice for all.
                    I was going to say that's not helpful, but I won't.

                    I'll leave it at dishonest. That's not what he said, and you know it, and you don't care.

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                    • Originally posted by Juvenal View Post
                      I was going to say that's not helpful, but I won't.

                      I'll leave it at dishonest. That's not what he said, and you know it, and you don't care.
                      Surely you can recognize sarcasm, Jerk.
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                      • Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                        Surely you can recognize sarcasm, Jerk.
                        I suppose the epithet "jerk" was really needed.

                        Cowpoke truncated the post. It was dishonest. But since CP is a "good" Christian, it is excused.
                        Last edited by simplicio; 04-17-2020, 11:29 PM.

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                        • Originally posted by simplicio View Post
                          Just how totalitarian do you think China is? Note the uproar on social media over the response by the Wuhan government.

                          The response to past epidemics caused much criticism of the government from both within China and without. The tensions between openness, with the potential of spreading unsound rumors via social media, and tight control of information to ensure scientific precision, to portray competence is a continual problem which governments need to resolve, even for the US.
                          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                          You're right - they're the perfect form of democracy with liberty and justice for all.
                          Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                          Surely you can recognize sarcasm, Jerk.
                          As easily as I can recognize the dishonesty behind a quote mine. Howzbout you, piglet?

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                          • Originally posted by simplicio View Post
                            I suppose the epithet "jerk" was really needed.
                            Hey! That's a term of endearment.

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                            • Originally posted by Juvenal View Post
                              I was going to say that's not helpful, but I won't.

                              I'll leave it at dishonest. That's not what he said, and you know it, and you don't care.
                              So, in your little hypercrtical know-it-all world, sarcasm has become "dishonesty".

                              And, ALWAYS feel free to declare something is not "helpful". That's SO... um.... "helpful".
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                              • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                                So, in your little hypercrtical know-it-all world, sarcasm has become "dishonesty".

                                And, ALWAYS feel free to declare something is not "helpful". That's SO... um.... "helpful".
                                The thread has drifted into the name calling mudslinging pig sti.

                                Back on topic>

                                I watched the video, and it remains hypothetical, and circumstantial evidence does not stand the test of evidence. There is no record of lab personnel getting the virus early, The consumption of the wild animals and the transmission of coronaviruses to humans has a long history. This one just started a pandemic.

                                The genetic research publications I presented are based on science, and the conclusions are most likely natural origins. The most likely animal has matching DNA and is sold and consumed in Wuhan via the Wuhan market.

                                Statement form the administration:

                                Source: https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/493083-us-officials-investigating-whether-coronavirus-originated-in-chinese




                                The theory, which has not yet been corroborated, is reportedly one of multiple possibilities the U.S. is investigating.

                                The latest developments come days after the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Army Gen. Mark Milley, told reporters that the U.S. intelligence community was taking "a hard look" at the theory.

                                "I would just say, at this point, it's inconclusive, although the weight of evidence seems to indicate natural [origin]. But we don't know for certain," he said, referring to the likelihood that the virus originated naturally, rather than in a lab setting.

                                © Copyright Original Source

                                Last edited by shunyadragon; 04-18-2020, 10:10 AM.
                                Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                                Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                                But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                                go with the flow the river knows . . .

                                Frank

                                I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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