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Does wearing masks really prevent coronavirus outbreaks?
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Originally posted by simplicio View PostBut the discussion is about how useful masks are as used by the general population, those without training.
It seems to block what better as it gets damp or caked up? It restricts airflow, but allows a channel for the very small particulates the size of a virus to follow the moisture into the lungs, deep into the lungs as the wearer struggles to breathe.
I did not say that at all, Sparko. I said that as the mask gets damp, the viruses more easily travel through the mask.
The weird part is that just a month ago I had a discussion with Rogue and pixie about the efficacy of washing down carts. They argued that anything less than sterile procedures was not worthwhile, I argued that it provided a pragmatic albeit a lesser level of protection and so appropriate.
The masks are a lower level of protection, and wearers should be cognizant of the shortfalls if they are worn for protection (as opposed to wearing them to meet rules mandated by local governments to be able to walk into stores).
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostYeah they get very hot if you have to wear them for any length of time.
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Originally posted by simplicio View PostI've seen few people wearing medical masks in public. A few were dust masks, but most are some home made.
Your observation shows why the public health community is divided on the question of masks, the average person subverts the very purpose of the mask! and truth be told, so do some health care workers. Wearing them for long periods is a pain, especially with strenuous activity.
I'm always still in trouble again
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"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
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Originally posted by Sparko View Postand yet humidity and heat kill the virus. I don't think that the virus travels more easily through a damp mask.
A classic failure of the lack of safe didtancing.Last edited by shunyadragon; 05-06-2020, 06:48 PM.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Does wearing masks really prevent coronavirus outbreaks?
Simple no, but it does reduce the possible spread of the coronavirus by those wearing it.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostIt is not known that humidity and heat kill this virus. In Singapore, hot and humid they relaxed the measures and the infections increased.
A classic failure of the lack of safe didtancing.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Postand yet humidity and heat kill the virus. I don't think that the virus travels more easily through a damp mask.
The other thing I heard is that bacteria or viruses are destroyed quickly within the mask because of the higher breath temperature. Then the outside of the mask would show more active contamination.
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Originally posted by mikewhitney View Posta little reminder ... the number of covid-19 cases is totally a function of how many people you test. It is not an indicator that covid-19 has spread further. You would only know it spread further if you tested the same people before they had a positive result and then found those people to be positive with covid-19 later.
Both Hong Kong and Singapore have aggressive testing programs.Last edited by shunyadragon; 05-06-2020, 07:58 PM.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostYou have remember this basically one city and testing, cases and body count is easier than in countries. Of course, this did not count accurately the asymptomatic and mild cases, but it is accurate for the trend of the sick cases and fatalities. The point of the article is accurate.
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Originally posted by mikewhitney View PostI saw some test results that showed that the virus is destroyed in about 60 seconds in the beach environment (on a hot day).
The other thing I heard is that bacteria or viruses are destroyed quickly within the mask because of the higher breath temperature. Then the outside of the mask would show more active contamination.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by mikewhitney View PostThe counting of severe illness and fatalities is not accurate either. Most people who landed in the hospital or had died during this period were said to be COVID-19 positive cases or COVID-19 deaths, respectively.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by mikewhitney View PostIt is because my backside is much better than your brain matter. I'm not sure why you have not been able to find this material.Last edited by shunyadragon; 05-06-2020, 08:28 PM.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by mikewhitney View Posta little reminder ... the number of covid-19 cases is totally a function of how many people you test. It is not an indicator that covid-19 has spread further. You would only know it spread further if you tested the same people before they had a positive result and then found those people to be positive with covid-19 later.
, . . and regardless of you trying to raise the fog index on the data for Singapore, the data in all countries and cities clearly demonstrate that crowded living and social events are major spread of the COVID 19, and humidity and temperature have no effect on the COVID 19 virus.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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