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    Covid 19 will disappear when you do a few things:

    Invent a predictive model that gives politically acceptable results.
    Run down the testing capacity.
    Make sure that death certificates do not register covid deaths.
    Hide the bodies.

    In the long term, make sure that post emergency scientific studies are not funded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firstfloor View Post
    Covid 19 will disappear when you do a few things:

    Invent a predictive model that gives politically acceptable results.
    Run down the testing capacity.
    Make sure that death certificates do not register covid deaths.
    Hide the bodies.

    In the long term, make sure that post emergency scientific studies are not funded.
    That's pretty much what China did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    That's pretty much what China did.
    . . . and Trump.
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    Trump begins the ‘mushroom’ treatment:
    President Trump in recent weeks has sought to block or downplay information about the severity of the coronavirus pandemic as he urges a return to normalcy and the rekindling of an economy that has been devastated by public health restrictions aimed at mitigating the outbreak.
His administration has sidelined or replaced officials not seen as loyal, rebuffed congressional requests for testimony, dismissed jarring statistics and models, praised states for reopening without meeting White House guidelines and, briefly, pushed to disband a task force created to combat the virus and communicate about the public health crisis.


    Several Republican governors are following Trump’s lead as an effort takes shape to control the narrative about a pandemic that has continued to rage throughout a quickly reopening country. With polls showing most consumers still afraid to venture out of their homes, the Trump administration has intensified its efforts to soothe some of those fears through a messaging campaign that relies on tightly controlling information about a virus that has proven stubbornly difficult to contain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firstfloor View Post
    Trump begins the ‘mushroom’ treatment:
    Source? WPO?
    He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me."

    "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets"

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    Quote Originally Posted by firstfloor View Post
    Covid 19 will disappear when you do a few things:

    Invent a predictive model that gives politically acceptable results.
    Run down the testing capacity.
    Make sure that death certificates do not register covid deaths.
    Hide the bodies.

    In the long term, make sure that post emergency scientific studies are not funded.
    What do you want here?
    Do you want fake panic news from the media?
    Do you want useless reports on number of cases -- which lack any scientific methodology, as required to make such data useful (such as how many shifts from negative to positive)?
    Do you want bodies on the street with tags saying "this is a COVID-19 death"?
    Do you want more false reports that all deaths are COVID-19 related?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikewhitney View Post
    What do you want here?
    Do you want fake panic news from the media?
    Do you want useless reports on number of cases -- which lack any scientific methodology, as required to make such data useful (such as how many shifts from negative to positive)?
    Do you want bodies on the street with tags saying "this is a COVID-19 death"?
    Do you want more false reports that all deaths are COVID-19 related?
    Seldom is scientific data "clean." You do the best you can with what you have. The tendency of so many on the right to discount the science because it isn't "perfect" reveals the deep misunderstanding they have for what science is and can do.
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    If we don't take the appropriate measures, it will definitely return with a vengeance. Unfortunately, our country doesn't have the leadership or infrastructure to effectively handle a national crises like this, so we need to do our best, on our own, in spite of the challenges, to not contract this dangerous disease. if we get infected, we need to improve our chances of only having a mild infection, rather than a serious one requiring hospitalization. We achieve that by doing our homework, our own research, and learning what we can do, as far as treatments, vitamins, what drugs we can take to lessen the blow of the infection on our bodies (lungs, kidneys, heart..etc). .

    The fact there are so many people in our country who think this pandemic is a joke or hoax, refusing to cover their mouths and noses in public (covering the mouth, being the most important of the two, but nonetheless, both should be covered), makes all of the above mentioned efforts not to get infected, more difficult. I expect cases to go up in the parts of the country where people want to end social distances and take their masks off in public. We're going to see an explosion of COVID in these parts of the country and their hospitals will be overwhelmed with patients. Patients who got infected due to their own reckless behavior or someone who got infected due to these people's miscreant, irresponsible antics. Wicked, lawless, "Christian", self-styled "constitutionalists" , so called, Ayn Rand "libertarian patriots", who only care about themselves, defying all of the government measures to fight the pandemic, becoming public health hazards in the process. Such people should stay at home when they get infected and develop a serious infection. Pray to God or Ayn Rand, or the invisible hand of the free market to heal you. Don't go to the hospital, to take a bed and ventilator away from someone who got infected of no fault of their own. Be a true "warrior" and stay at home,with your combat rifle, wearing body armor, praying to Jesus to heal you.

    They think they're the children of YAHWEH, but they're not, they're the children of their father the devil, who was a defiant, belligerent, promoter of personal "independence" and "freedom". When our heavenly Monarch returns from heaven, the first missiles fired at his armies, will be from the major earthly powers of this sin stricken, fallen world. All of these "democracies" and "republics" will fight the King of Kings and Lord of Lords, tooth and nail, and will be quickly defeated and forced to bow their knees. Those who in the middle of a pandemic, insist on appealing to their supposed personal independence and "sovereignty" , will get a rude awakening when YAHWEH's anointed and His armies return to this earth, with glory and power.

    Rev 12:5 " And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was rcaught up unto God, and to his throne. "


    Those who insist on thumbing their noses at government measures/community measures to stop a deadly virus from spreading and possibly killing millions of Americans, will pay the piper, either in this life or when they stand before the heavenly council to reap their harvest. In YAHWEHs Kingdom, there is interdependence, not personal independence and individualism. There is symbiosis, not schism, severance
    dissent, dissidence. Oneness, where no one is capitalizing on anyone's needs, because each member of the body, selflessly sacrifices and functions for the whole body. That is the Kingdom of YAHWEH, which is paradise for the actual born again (born from above) disciples of Messiah, but hell for the carnal and unregenerate soul. Heaven is hell for the wicked, which is a place of order, oneness, unity, community, selfless love, solidarity, between all of YAHWEH's creatures. There's no Ayn Rand individualism, libertarianism, republicanism in YHWH's Kingdom, only absolute monarchy and community.

    In the middle of a pandemic, the righteous thing to do is to wear a mask. Not becoming a public health hazard, will go a long way in bearing good testimony for YAHWEH and His Kingdom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carpedm9587 View Post
    Seldom is scientific data "clean." You do the best you can with what you have. The tendency of so many on the right to discount the science because it isn't "perfect" reveals the deep misunderstanding they have for what science is and can do.
    I have gone and studied and learned about the science behind all of this. I just cannot entice other people whether leftist or conservative to look into it. It is a continual problem I have observed during the pandemic. No one is even paying attention to common sense about things we are told to do.

    I would have expected some intellectual participants in this forum to look into details beyond the headlines. But there have been no takers on this, beyond just looking at Ferguson's failed models.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikewhitney View Post
    What do you want here?
    Do you want fake panic news from the media?
    Do you want useless reports on number of cases -- which lack any scientific methodology, as required to make such data useful (such as how many shifts from negative to positive)?
    Do you want bodies on the street with tags saying "this is a COVID-19 death"?
    Do you want more false reports that all deaths are COVID-19 related?
    A good and easy to understand statistic is excess deaths (above average values). So far, it should be about 150k in total.
    “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
    “You can safely assume you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.” ― Anne Lamott
    “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell

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