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The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by seanD View PostIt is.
I would expect little kids to do this in an online argument with each other, not grown adults having a discussion.
No it's not. You literally have to meticulously break apart the post (usually out of context) and manually click the quote code around it each time. That isn't how it functions, you have to force it that way manually.
Because adults don't talk like that in person, so why should adults discuss things this way in a text post?
But, as I have said to those who have complained when I do it, there is a simple solution to your problem: if you don't like the practice, don't read the response and don't respond further. The problem will instantly go away!The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by QuantaFille View PostI agree. It gets hard to figure out to which part of someone's post you're referring to if you don't break it up that way. It's asking for misunderstanding to just leave it as one block of text with all your replies to the different parts of their post as one block of text at the bottom.
Sometimes, people type WALLS of text, but there's only one thing that struck you as worth engaging.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostReally? When my wife and I went through marriage counseling, an exercise we were asked to do was to use a talking stick, limit anything said to 30 seconds, and stay with one message. Then the other person had to first reflect back what they heard before responding. At first it was cumbersome. Over time we learned to adjust how we spoke to each other to be more in a listening posture and less in a "framing my response while you're talking" posture. So when someone makes multiple points or asks multiple questions in one post, breaking it into the constituent elements and responding to each simply restores the exchange to that structure.
But, as I have said to those who have complained when I do it, there is a simple solution to your problem: if you don't like the practice, don't read the response and don't respond further. The problem will instantly go away!The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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It's kinda like the argument that the Jews stole the body of Jesus --- if that were true, all they had to do was parade the body through the streets to show He was dead.
All NK needs to do is show the little fella with the crazy haircut doing something "alive".The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostThe problem of not liking it when...
...someone breaks up a post and responds to it in pieces.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostIt's kinda like the argument that the Jews stole the body of Jesus --- if that were true, all they had to do was parade the body through the streets to show He was dead.
All NK needs to do is show the little fella with the crazy haircut doing something "alive".
It makes far more sense that the followers of Jesus of Nazareth did the stealing...The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostNot liking WHAT?
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYa know,
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI really hate it
Originally posted by Cow Poke View Postwhen you break
Originally posted by Cow Poke View Postup my posts
Originally posted by Cow Poke View Postlike that!The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYa shoulda led with that!
ETA: speaking of following...I think I'm going to follow someone to bed!Last edited by carpedm9587; 04-25-2020, 09:40 PM.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostI never understood that argument for exactly that reason.
It makes far more sense that the followers of Jesus of Nazareth did the stealing...The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWell, when He started showing up places and crashing their parties, they, too, could have presented the corpus delicti, had they stolen the body, but there would be no need for that, eh?The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostReally? When my wife and I went through marriage counseling, an exercise we were asked to do was to use a talking stick, limit anything said to 30 seconds, and stay with one message. Then the other person had to first reflect back what they heard before responding. At first it was cumbersome. Over time we learned to adjust how we spoke to each other to be more in a listening posture and less in a "framing my response while you're talking" posture. So when someone makes multiple points or asks multiple questions in one post, breaking it into the constituent elements and responding to each simply restores the exchange to that structure.
But, as I have said to those who have complained when I do it, there is a simple solution to your problem: if you don't like the practice, don't read the response and don't respond further. The problem will instantly go away!
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Originally posted by seanD View PostIt's not like we're having informal discussions. It's a debate section essentially. You don't talk over each in formal debates. That's childish. I can sort of see it's function if it's a large block of text, sort of like how you did it (though even that irks the heck out of me if I haven't done it to your post, and my post was just three sentences!). If you're incapable of forming coherent ideas, points, rebuttals into a succinct block of text because you lack literary skill, then I guess you have no choice. But what DO did was just ridiculous. He even
Originally posted by seanD View Postpulled
Originally posted by seanD View Postmy
Originally posted by seanD View Postsentences
Originally posted by seanD View Postapart.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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