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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    I think that until a vaccine is available for the world, each country is on its on with respect to mitigation of the virus. There is no doubt going to be a second wave or an unrelenting continuation of the spread until the entire world is vaccinated. Can only mitigate the caseload, can't ever beat it without that vaccine.
    How many enduring, severe viruses have been stopped only by worldwide vaccinations of the majority population?

    Why do you think this virus will be so enduring without a vaccine? How can you even predict that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    Keep dreaming. The NYT wrote the article characterizing it as something the Trump administration is hiding. When in fact, it is just some internal data that wasn't vetted by anyone official and it doesn't take into account things like mitigation factors in place.
    You didn't read the article. It contradicts your statement. You didn't read the post. It includes quotes that contradict your statement. Your claims are fabricated.

    You're lying.

    I don't care why. You do you, boo boo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    I think that until a vaccine is available for the world, each country is on its on with respect to mitigation of the virus. There is no doubt going to be a second wave or an unrelenting continuation of the spread until the entire world is vaccinated. Each country can only continue to mitigate the caseload, can't ever beat it without that vaccine.
    I do nor support the "There is no doubt going to be a second wave or an unrelenting continuation of the spread until the entire world is vaccinated." beyond the overlying 'second bell curve' that is seen in the recovery slope of some countries that have passed the peak.

    Do you consider the hump or the overlying bell cure found in China and South Korea the "second wave?"I did predict a prolonged recovery due to the spread of COVID 19 into isolated populations not yet exposed to the virus and this trend is apparent in the actual data.

    Actually the possibility of a vaccine is somewhat down the road like 3 to 6 months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juvenal View Post
    You didn't read the article. It contradicts your statement. You didn't read the post. It includes quotes that contradict your statement. Your claims are fabricated.

    You're lying.

    I don't care why. You do you, boo boo.
    I can't read the articles (NYT and WP) because they are behind a pay wall. I am using the information that the White House has released in their response.

    https://justthenews.com/politics-pol...00-deaths-week

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    I can't read the articles (NYT and WP) because they are behind a pay wall. I am using the information that the White House has released in their response.

    https://justthenews.com/politics-pol...00-deaths-week
    It would help to read the posts even though do not understand the graphs.

    Based on the facts of the current trends by 'scientific' sources, the trend in fatalities is decreasing in the USA, and when comparing the course of the viruses in other countries and regions the answer is no and Trumps figures are exaggerated and have no basis in the evidence. Russia was infect late and is probably the only large country in the world showing an increas in cases and fatalities.

    Still waiting for Pompeo . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikewhitney View Post
    How many enduring, severe viruses have been stopped only by worldwide vaccinations of the majority population?

    Why do you think this virus will be so enduring without a vaccine? How can you even predict that?
    Actually seasonal zoonotic viruses like flus are not stopped, but moderated by vaccinations that reduce the cases and fatalities.

    Without a vaccine the virus takes its nature course as in the past. We can reduce the cases and fatalities by various methods, but the virus is in control.
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    Frank

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    Quote Originally Posted by shunyadragon View Post
    Actually seasonal zoonotic viruses like flus are not stopped, but moderated by vaccinations that reduce the cases and fatalities.

    Without a vaccine the virus takes its nature course as in the past. We can reduce the cases and fatalities by various methods, but the virus is in control.
    Again, I ask "How many enduring, severe viruses have been stopped only by worldwide vaccinations of the majority population?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikewhitney View Post
    Again, I ask "How many enduring, severe viruses have been stopped only by worldwide vaccinations of the majority population?"
    As far as zoonotic viruses, none
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    I can't read the articles (NYT and WP) because they are behind a pay wall.
    No they're not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juvenal View Post
    No they're not.
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