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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineOb View Post
    So your response is that Texas is only in play because it's permanently going blue. You sure pwned me, bro.
    Yes. It's just another in a long line of TrumpOCD reactions. It has nothing to do with Trump. Pointing out your and others' TrumpOCD is like shooting fish in a barrel.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    Yes. It's just another in a long line of TrumpOCD reactions. It has nothing to do with Trump. Pointing out your and others' TrumpOCD is like shooting fish in a barrel.
    All I really care is that Trump and his supporters are out of power. The exact reason isn't very important to me. That it is due to demographic reasons is only more likely to lock in those gains long term.

    But I am curious, your article from 3 months ago said Texas wouldn't go blue. Now it is clearly in danger of going blue. How can that be since demographic changes can't possibly explain that change over a 3 month period?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineOb View Post
    All I really care is that Trump and his supporters are out of power. The exact reason isn't very important to me. That it is due to demographic reasons is only more likely to lock in those gains long term.

    But I am curious, your article from 3 months ago said Texas wouldn't go blue. Now it is clearly in danger of going blue. How can that be since demographic changes can't possibly explain that change over a 3 month period?
    I still don't think it's in any real danger of going blue yet. I think the polls are just wrong.


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    The full court is likely to back Sullivan. Trump will be forced to use his pardon power. In America, POTUS pals get off, even after pleading their guilt; what an example to set!

    Trump and his fans are truly the Devil’s children.

    In ruling against Sullivan in late June, appellate Judge Neomi Rao, a recent Trump nominee, found that “this is not the unusual case where a more searching inquiry is justified.”


    But Judge Robert L. Wilkins disagreed, saying it was “unprecedented” for the court to shut down Sullivan’s review before he had rendered a decision. Wilkins said the judge should have an opportunity to examine the Justice Department’s change of heart.

    
“This is no mere about-face; it is more akin to turning around an aircraft carrier,” Wilkins, who was nominated by President Barack Obama, wrote of the government’s action.
[[Transcripts of calls between Flynn, Russian diplomat show they discussed sanctions]]
Sullivan’s filing said the majority opinion was legally flawed for the reasons Wilkins cited. Sullivan said it was also flawed because it granted the government relief — approval of its dismissal motion — even though only Flynn and not the Justice Department petitioned the appeals court. Sullivan’s filing also said the majority relied on arguments never raised before the lower court.


    “Any one” of these flaws weaken the legal standard usually required for a writ of mandamus, the type of extraordinary relief Flynn sought to shortcut the regular appeals process, Sullivan’s team argued. Such writs normally require a petitioner to show that no other remedy is available.


    “Taken together, they threaten to turn mandamus into an ordinary litigation tool,” inviting “forum shopping” by parties to bypass a trial judge and run to the circuit court, Sullivan’s filing argued.




    Sullivan’s attorneys also argued that the majority ignored U.S. Supreme Court and D.C. circuit court precedent allowing judges to appoint outside or amicus counsel and schedule hearings when litigating parties no longer are opposed. Sullivan’s filing also argued that the majority ignored precedent that allows the government to dismiss prosecutions only with the permission or “leave” of a trial court.


    As a result, on either score, Sullivan’s team argued, Flynn failed to show a “clear and indisputable” right to immediate dismissal of his prosecution and plea of guilty. That requirement ensures that even unique, unprecedented legal questions are resolved deliberately with a full record — even if the outcome appears “potentially straightforward,” they said.


    Federal appeals courts, one step below the Supreme Court, rarely agree to take a second look at cases initially decided by three-judge panels. But the D.C. Circuit recently sat as a full court to reconsider the dismissal of two lawsuits brought by House Democrats — one to enforce a congressional subpoena for Trump’s former White House counsel Donald McGahn and another challenging the president’s spending on a border wall.


    Flynn was the highest-level Trump adviser convicted in special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s Russia investigation. Instead of proceeding to sentencing, Attorney General William P. Barr ordered a review of the Flynn investigation. He then moved to drop the long-running case, saying new evidence showed FBI agents did not have a valid reason to question Flynn, so any lies he told did not amount to a crime.


    The case of the retired U.S. Army general has energized Trump and his supporters who say Flynn was set up by anti-Trump investigators in the FBI. But many current and former Justice Department officials view the reversal as a troubling sign of the department’s giving in to pressure from Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firstfloor View Post
    The full court is likely to back Sullivan. Trump will be forced to use his pardon power. In America, POTUS pals get off, even after pleading their guilt; what an example to set!

    Trump and his fans are truly the Devil’s children.



    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...1ff_story.html
    The SCOTUS will overturn Sullivan's idiocy if the full court doesn't do their job.


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    As expected:
    The court’s brief order set oral arguments for Aug. 11. The decision to rehear the case before a full complement of judges wipes out the June ruling from a three-judge panel that ordered Sullivan to immediately dismiss the case and said Sullivan was wrong to appoint a retired federal judge to argue against the government’s move to undo Flynn’s guilty plea.
    We should hear from Andrew shortly.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...e0d_story.html
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    Additional evidence conclusively proving Flynn's innocence has since come to light, so it will be interesting to see if the court does the right thing. We can hope, but there's no telling with liberal judges who will happily ignore the law in favor of politics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Additional evidence conclusively proving Flynn's innocence has since come to light, so it will be interesting to see if the court does the right thing. We can hope, but there's no telling with liberal judges who will happily ignore the law in favor of politics.
    That’s not what this is about.

    The order from the court Thursday suggests that the judges are seeking a narrowly focused argument on the question of whether Flynn should have waited to appeal until after Sullivan rendered a decision. The court told lawyers on both sides to be prepared at oral argument to address whether Flynn had “no other adequate means to attain the relief” he sought from the appeals court.
    Last edited by firstfloor; 07-31-2020 at 05:06 AM.
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    The problem is that Sullivan the Corrupt has indicated that he plans to act as judge, jury, and executioner after the DOJ rightfully dropped the charges against the good general, so the fact that the case wasn't immediately dismissed is a miscarriage of justice in and of itself.

    Of course this case isn't about prosecuting Flynn as much as it is about protecting Barack Obama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firstfloor View Post
    That’s not what this is about.
    Looks like this could go on a while, with the full appeals court letting Sullivan decide whether or not to accept the dropping of Flynn's guilty plea, and Sullivan possibly deciding not to, in which case it gets appealed again...

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