Ahmaud Arbery; racist killing and attempted cover up.

[Charles]

My point has little to with the presentation of the all facts of a case, which is a given. It has everything to do with the continued focus on facts already shown to be irrelavent and the complete lack of focus on the killers, who THEY were, what THEIR background or foibles are. The only people getting any real scrutiny are the victims, and the majority of comments, the majority of the facts brought to light and presented on these pages serves primarily to denigrate the victims and partially absolve the killers.

That is absolutely true. Some like to claim they are so focused on "facts" when the truth is, they only take interest in certain "facts". Their focus says an awful lot about their state of mind.

[Mountain Man]

Still doing your best to defend the actions of the McMichaels, eh MM?

[Charles]

Christian blues musician Glenn Kaiser has written an interesting piece called: White America Wake Up, Grow Up, Ante Up

Rather than repent, facing the many layers of cost to our pride, systemically racist laws, the normalcy of injustices including mass incarceration, murderS and more regularly pressed upon minority people in our land we think, speak and misquote scripture to carve ourselves exits. Easier to argue, social media troll, lock up people of color, even lock and load.

[Cow Poke]

The land owner did not contact nor complain to the police concerning a complaint of trespassing nor a complaint of any other crime.

The security camera is simply standard equipment on homes to prevent crime. As cited no crime committed here. The land owner gave the police copies of the videos simply as a part of the investigation of the murder of Ahmaud Aubrey

Read the reference again.

You really just need to quit spewing forth ignorance.

[Mountain Man]

Glenn Kaiser is from Chicago, so he's seen the worst of black-on-black violence.

Of course he's just spouting the usual "white privilege" and "critical race theory" nonsense, but I will continue enjoy his music nonetheless.

[Whateverman]

The land owner did not contact nor complain to the police concerning a complaint of trespassing nor a complaint of any other crime.

[...]

The security camera is simply standard equipment on homes to prevent crime. As cited no crime committed here. The land owner gave the police copies of the videos simply as a part of the investigation of the murder of Ahmaud Aubrey

Read the reference again.

You really just need to quit spewing forth ignorance.

I'm not trying to intervene in a general dispute you and Shunyadragon may have; I'm the new guy here, and I take no sides in conflicts like that.

Beyond this, I believe most of what Shunyadragon wrote/cited was accurate. You were right, too, when you said trespassing took place. I just think you're talking past each other.

Expound only if you want to, or leave this post as an observation which has no ultimate/cosmic significance whatsoever.

[Cow Poke]

I'm not trying to intervene in a general dispute you and Shunyadragon may have; I'm the new guy here, and I take no sides in conflicts like that.

Beyond this, I believe most of what Shunyadragon wrote/cited was accurate. You were right, too, when you said trespassing took place. I just think you're talking past each other.

Expound only if you want to, or leave this post as an observation which has no ultimate/cosmic significance whatsoever.

Shuny reads something, makes WILD suppositions as to what was said, and responds to that. He has a history of doing this.

But, thanks.

[whag]

Shuny reads something, makes WILD suppositions as to what was said, and responds to that. He has a history of doing this.

But, thanks.

[JimL]

Exactly.

[shunyadragon]

You really just need to quit spewing forth ignorance.

You need to respond coherently to the post, and respond to the reference I provided, which you conveniently dodged.

Still waiting . . .
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[shunyadragon]

Shuny reads something, makes WILD suppositions as to what was said, and responds to that. He has a history of doing this.

But, thanks.

Again, no coherent response to the news release with video I cited.

[Cow Poke]

Again, no coherent response to the news release with video I cited.

Ya noticed, did ya?

[Cow Poke]

The land owner did not contact nor complain to the police concerning a complaint of trespassing nor a complaint of any other crime.

We don't know that - we just know we have no record of him doing so. I'd be inclined to believe he did not, but you can't say positively that he never did.

The security camera is simply standard equipment on homes to prevent crime.

No, he had them added AFTER fishing tackle was stolen from his boat.

As cited no crime committed here.

Trespassing is a crime. That he did not report does not negate the fact that it is a crime.

The land owner gave the police copies of the videos simply as a part of the investigation of the murder of Ahmaud Aubrey

I never said he didn't.

Read the reference again.

Try to stay with the actual facts.

[Cow Poke]

A) I was speaking generally, not just that one specific case
2) There's simply not enough time.

I believe I allowed him one.

Yeah, that's gotta be it.

[whag]

A) I was speaking generally, not just that one specific case
2) There's simply not enough time.



I believe I allowed him one.



Yeah, that's gotta be it.