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Thread: Ahmaud Arbery; racist killing and attempted cover up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    My point has little to with the presentation of the all facts of a case, which is a given. It has everything to do with the continued focus on facts already shown to be irrelavent and the complete lack of focus on the killers, who THEY were, what THEIR background or foibles are. The only people getting any real scrutiny are the victims, and the majority of comments, the majority of the facts brought to light and presented on these pages serves primarily to denigrate the victims and partially absolve the killers.
    That is absolutely true. Some like to claim they are so focused on "facts" when the truth is, they only take interest in certain "facts". Their focus says an awful lot about their state of mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimLamebrain View Post
    Still doing your best to defend the actions of the McMichaels, eh MM?
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    Christian blues musician Glenn Kaiser has written an interesting piece called: White America Wake Up, Grow Up, Ante Up

    Plenty of professing Christians in my nation shrug and rationalize “Probably had it coming, reaping what they sowed, we don’t have all the facts, judge not” while blood cries out from the ground. When will we Wake Up from this nightmare of fatalities we whites help create by our own prejudice, willful distance and ignorance, self-righteousness, fear and violent attacks often in the name of “self-defense”?
    Rather than repent, facing the many layers of cost to our pride, systemically racist laws, the normalcy of injustices including mass incarceration, murderS and more regularly pressed upon minority people in our land we think, speak and misquote scripture to carve ourselves exits. Easier to argue, social media troll, lock up people of color, even lock and load.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shunyadragon View Post
    The land owner did not contact nor complain to the police concerning a complaint of trespassing nor a complaint of any other crime.

    The security camera is simply standard equipment on homes to prevent crime. As cited no crime committed here. The land owner gave the police copies of the videos simply as a part of the investigation of the murder of Ahmaud Aubrey

    Read the reference again.
    You really just need to quit spewing forth ignorance.
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    Glenn Kaiser is from Chicago, so he's seen the worst of black-on-black violence.

    Of course he's just spouting the usual "white privilege" and "critical race theory" nonsense, but I will continue enjoy his music nonetheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by shunyadragon View Post
    The land owner did not contact nor complain to the police concerning a complaint of trespassing nor a complaint of any other crime.

    [...]

    The security camera is simply standard equipment on homes to prevent crime. As cited no crime committed here. The land owner gave the police copies of the videos simply as a part of the investigation of the murder of Ahmaud Aubrey

    Read the reference again.
    You really just need to quit spewing forth ignorance.
    I'm not trying to intervene in a general dispute you and Shunyadragon may have; I'm the new guy here, and I take no sides in conflicts like that.

    Beyond this, I believe most of what Shunyadragon wrote/cited was accurate. You were right, too, when you said trespassing took place. I just think you're talking past each other.

    Expound only if you want to, or leave this post as an observation which has no ultimate/cosmic significance whatsoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whateverman View Post
    I'm not trying to intervene in a general dispute you and Shunyadragon may have; I'm the new guy here, and I take no sides in conflicts like that.

    Beyond this, I believe most of what Shunyadragon wrote/cited was accurate. You were right, too, when you said trespassing took place. I just think you're talking past each other.

    Expound only if you want to, or leave this post as an observation which has no ultimate/cosmic significance whatsoever.
    Shuny reads something, makes WILD suppositions as to what was said, and responds to that. He has a history of doing this.

    But, thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Shuny reads something, makes WILD suppositions as to what was said, and responds to that. He has a history of doing this.

    But, thanks.
    You didn’t specify what wild assumptions he made. Moreover, you didn’t even acknowledge the valid points he made, which obviously makes you look like you’re siding with the racists in this case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whag View Post
    You didn’t specify what wild assumptions he made. Moreover, you didn’t even acknowledge the valid points he made, which obviously makes you look like you’re siding with the racists in this case.
    Exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    You really just need to quit spewing forth ignorance.
    You need to respond coherently to the post, and respond to the reference I provided, which you conveniently dodged.

    Quote Originally Posted by whag
    You didn’t specify what wild assumptions he made. Moreover, you didn’t even acknowledge the valid points he made, which obviously makes you look like you’re siding with the racists in this case.
    Still waiting . . .
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    Last edited by shunyadragon; 06-06-2020 at 01:41 PM.
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