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Ahmaud Arbery; racist killing and attempted cover up.

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  • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    Hey, you've spent hundreds of posts trying to smear a black man chased like a dog and murdered for the crime of jogging in a white neighborhood, why should I expect any less?
    That you perceive the recitation of facts to be a "smear" is your problem, not mine. You have to slay your personal demons on your own.
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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    • Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
      Don’t get me wrong, we can’t help how our household or society out our doors was as kids, but not everyone knew racism the same way. I do not ever recall my grandparents or even my great-grandparents ever using a racial slur and would have gone off the handle if they ever heard it. That was not allowed. Maybe Oxi could try to understand that not everyone grew up with a racist family, in the Jim Crow era.
      And indeed, you've posted very little in this thread, and I haven't seen you defending arbery's shooters or exaggerating arnery's 'crime' of being in the house under construction. You've not shown one iota of the behaviour that I am ascribing to racism. That is consistent with your claims about yourself.
      My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

      If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

      This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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      • Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
        The entire country isn’t large cities.
        A fact that is irrelavent to the point made.

        Georgia, OTOH, especially places like Brunswick, are still bastions of overt racism, which is where this killing occurred.
        My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

        If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

        This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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        • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
          That you perceive the recitation of facts to be a "smear" is your problem, not mine. You have to slay your personal demons on your own.
          If reality wont do, invent a fantasy. You've learned your master's lessons well.
          My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

          If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

          This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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          • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
            And indeed, you've posted very little in this thread, and I haven't seen you defending arbery's shooters or exaggerating arnery's 'crime' of being in the house under construction. You've not shown one iota of the behaviour that I am ascribing to racism. That is consistent with your claims about yourself.
            I have no idea what happened. I know he didn’t deserve to get shot or die, but I don’t recall anyone here saying he did. Do you?
            "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
            GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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            • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
              A fact that is irrelavent to the point made.

              Georgia, OTOH, especially places like Brunswick, are still bastions of overt racism, which is where this killing occurred.
              And if the entire country was Georgia, you might have a point, but it isn’t.
              "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
              GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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              • Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
                I have no idea what happened. I know he didn’t deserve to get shot or die, but I don’t recall anyone here saying he did. Do you?
                Go back and read my comments closer. Did I say that anyone here said Arbery deserved to be shot?

                I said the focus here was on creating the supporting the idea Arbery deserved to be chased.
                Last edited by oxmixmudd; 06-19-2020, 08:43 AM.
                My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                  Go back and read my comments closer. Did I say that anyone here said Arbery deserved to be shot?
                  You’ve been accusing everyone of listening to demons, for not instantly agreeing with every single word you say, so you tell me.
                  "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                  GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                  • Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
                    You’ve been accusing everyone of listening to demons, for not instantly agreeing with every single word you say, so you tell me.
                    No, I've been saying that the attempt to smear Arbery and justify the chase is stereotypical racist behaviour and that racist behaviour of that sort finds itself supported and encouraged by hell itself.

                    Do you understand the difference between what you said and what I actually have been saying?
                    My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                    If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                    This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                    • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                      No, I've been saying that the attempt to smear Arbery and justify the chase is stereotypical racist behaviour and that racist behaviour of that sort finds itself supported and encouraged by hell itself.

                      Do you understand the difference between what you said and what I actually have been saying?
                      Saying both sides had issues is hardly ‘racist behavior’. Is there some sort of reason he needs to be a knight, in shining armor, beyond reproach?
                      "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                      GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                      • Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
                        I do not ever recall my grandparents or even my great-grandparents ever using a racial slur and would have gone off the handle if they ever heard it. That was not allowed.
                        This is my experience as well. And my great grand parents were born in 1900 and lived into their 90s!
                        Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                        Than a fool in the eyes of God


                        From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                        • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                          This is my experience as well. And my great grand parents were born in 1900 and lived into their 90s!
                          Mine were born in the 1910-20’s, on my mother’s side. Never remember any of them being racist. One of them was pretty liberal, spent 30 years doing charity work, and even a gay rights supporter.
                          "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                          GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                          • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                            Did I say that anyone here said Arbery deserved to be shot?
                            You've falsely accused others of trying to justify the shooting when nobody has.
                            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                            Than a fool in the eyes of God


                            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                            • Originally posted by Chaotic Void View Post
                              Exactly! It's been an absolute given that Arbery's killing was totally unjustified, ...
                              It hasn't been an absolute. The very next post includes this:
                              Originally posted by Mountain Man
                              Whether or not the killing was justified or even intentional is still an open question.
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                              • Originally posted by Roy View Post
                                It hasn't been an absolute. The very next post includes this:
                                Congrats on pointing out my strong wording (and I do disagree with the part of his post you quoted, FWIW). Now maybe also quote the whole post:

                                Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                                Whether or not the killing was justified or even intentional is still an open question. The McMichaels are clearly responsible for Arbery's death, but to what extent is for the legal system to decide -- and, of course, they will some day have to give an answer to God.
                                The part I've bolded, which is the part you neglected to quote, still puts the culpability solely on the McMichaels. He also still says that The McMikes are still going to have to answer to God, regardless of what the Courts- and our inferior armchair speculation- conclude... Which, as an Atheist, I understand it's not a belief you share, but it's kind of a big deal in Christianity so it's expression is to be expected.

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                                Last edited by Chaotic Void; 06-19-2020, 09:58 AM.
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