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    Quote Originally Posted by seanD View Post


    The guy wasn't innocently jogging through the neighborhood like the left claims. But I think most would agree he shouldn't have been shot.
    We've been fed another round of "Hands up, don't shoot!" and "He was a cherubic 14-year with iced tea and a bag of Skittles" lies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanD
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    You won’t hear me arguing against it, as long as it isn’t being used as a defense of the injustice done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    We've been fed another round of "Hands up, don't shoot!" and "He was a cherubic 14-year with iced tea and a bag of Skittles" lies.
    I hate to break it to you, but we’ve got the shooting on video.

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    This is most definitely is not a case of Stand Your Ground or self-defense as some have portrayed. Arbery may or may not have been acting suspiciously but the McMichaels most definitely went too far, resulting in someone dying.

    There has been a lot of talk about what took so long for them to be charged. A significant reason is that the first two prosecutors recused themselves having worked with the elder McMichael in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    This is most definitely is not a case of Stand Your Ground or self-defense as some have portrayed. Arbery may or may not have been acting suspiciously but the McMichaels most definitely went too far, resulting in someone dying.

    There has been a lot of talk about what took so long for them to be charged. A significant reason is that the first two prosecutors recused themselves having worked with the elder McMichael in the past.
    Still even with that excuse in play the case went nowhere for 76 days, in a murder case. It’ll certainly stoke the fires about police officers and the justice system protecting their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonhard View Post
    I hate to break it to you, but we’ve got the shooting on video.
    And that video shows Ahmaud charging the truck and wrestling with the shooter before he's shot. So I have a feeling that at least one of the men will likely be charged with man slaughter instead of murder, and then, because the public has been charged up with false narratives, we'll have more racial tension because of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seanD View Post
    He wasn't innocently jogging through the neighborhood lol. This is why we can't have nice things because people like you lie or exaggerate the narrative. The sad part is that the MSM plays off these false narratives to stoke racial and political tension for clicks. I"m not sure why YOU do it though.
    As I have said, there is nothing here that can justify what was done to him. The house they saw him roaming through was under construction. No occupants, no one living there. I would not know enough to know if he was 'just jogging' or not, but it doesn't matter. These fellows took the law into their own hands and they killed a young man in the process. That's never going to be ok. And the fact they where white and he was black will raise the racial spectres, as it should. The simple fact is, if this had been a white kid roaming through the neighborhood or pilfering through a house under construction, they would not have tried to detain him, and he would not be dead. I can't 'prove' that, but we all know it is true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    As I have said, there is nothing here that can justify what was done to him. The house they saw him roaming through was under construction. No occupants, no one living there. I would not know enough to know if he was 'just jogging' or not, but it doesn't matter. These fellows took the law into their own hands and the killed a young man in the process. That's never going to be ok. And the fact they where white and he was black will raise the racial spectres, as it should. The simple fact is, if this had been a white kid roaming through the neighborhood pilfering through a house under construction, they would not have tried to detain him, and he would not be dead. I can't 'prove' that, but we all know it is true.
    You're right, you can't prove it, but I highly doubt you are correct. There were apparently reports of theft in the area prior. Had a suspicious white kid been milling around inside the property, I'm sure they would have confronted him as well, but then we have heard NOTHING about this in the MSM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seanD View Post
    You're right, you can't prove it, but I highly doubt you are correct. There were apparently reports of theft in the area prior. Had a suspicious white kid been milling around inside the property, I'm sure they would have confronted him as well, but then we have heard NOTHING about this in the MSM.
    confronted, perhaps. Detained at gun point and killed - no. but I know the racial profile of those I'm talking to - so I'm not going to argue the point.
    He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me."

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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    A house under construction? Give me a break. I've wondered through houses under construction myself just out of curiosity as to what was being built.

    You guys are really coming down on the wrong side of this. Be careful. A Black person out jogging shot and killed for 'suspicious' behavior by white citizens is NOT going to play well anywhere, and the likelihood this was racially motivated is huge. That young man was unarmed. And he would not have been dead if those men had not tried to detain him using deadly force. AFAIK, there is nothing he had done or is accused of doing that justified the civilian use of deadly force at that moment in time.
    First of all, entering a property under construction is trespassing.

    Secondly, this guy wasn't out jogging, and he didn't just happen to wander by and poke his head in out of curiosity. The neighborhood in question was ten-miles from his home, and he had cased the place at night on multiple occasions. Furthermore, let's not pretend that construction sites aren't a popular target for thieves.

    Third, he was shot as a direct result of his own aggressive actions. If he had quietly waited for the police to arrive then he would still be alive.

    I'm not saying he deserved to be shot, or that the guys were necessarily right to approach him while armed, or any nonsense like, but this lie that he was just some innocent black man out for a jog needs to be rejected. Come on, ox, I thought you were a defender of the truth.
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