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Thread: Ahmaud Arbery; racist killing and attempted cover up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonhard View Post
    I hate to break it to you, but we’ve got the shooting on video.
    So? The narrative that has built up around it is based on lies.
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    First of all, entering a property under construction is trespassing.

    Secondly, this guy wasn't out jogging, and he didn't just happen to wander by and poke his head in out of curiosity. The neighborhood in question was ten-miles from his home, and he had cased the place at night on multiple occasions. Furthermore, let's not pretend that construction sites aren't a popular target for thieves.

    Third, he was shot as a direct result of his own aggressive actions. If he had quietly waited for the police to arrive then he would still be alive.

    I'm not saying he deserved to be shot, or that the guys were necessarily right to approach him while armed, or any nonsense like, but this lie that he was just some innocent black man out for a jog needs to be rejected. Come on, ox, I thought you were a defender of the truth.
    Sorry, there is no way to justify what happened. And the more you try, the deeper the whole you dig for yourself in this circumstance.
    He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me."

    "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets"

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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    confronted, perhaps. Detained at gun point and killed - no. but I know the racial profile of those I'm talking to - so I'm not going to argue the point.
    I don't think you do.
    "I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole, it was like... we had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment." - Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State (source).

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanD View Post
    I don't think you do.
    maybe I don't
    He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me."

    "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets"

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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    Sorry, there is no way to justify what happened.
    I didn't justify anything, you intellectually dishonest dumbass. Did you miss my last sentence?

    "I'm not saying he deserved to be shot, or that the guys were necessarily right to approach him while armed, or any nonsense like, but this lie that he was just some innocent black man out for a jog needs to be rejected. Come on, ox, I thought you were a defender of the truth."

    All I did was spell out the facts. I'm sorry they don't fit the liberal narrative, but that shouldn't be a problem for someone like you who styles himself as a champion of the truth.
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    Sorry, there is no way to justify what happened. And the more you try, the deeper the whole you dig for yourself in this circumstance.
    That's a big load of BS you have there Ox. Again, lots of mistakes, including one by the victim himself. If someone has a gun pointed at you the last thing you should try to do is take it from them. Once he tried to wrestle for the gun, he put himself into harms way. Did he deserve to die for trespassing? NO, but when being held at gunpoint for the police, sane rational people put their hands up and wait, not try to take the gun away. That's called stupidity. I have a carry license, if I (Heaven FORBID) ever have to pull it and aim it at someone and that person tries to take it from me, they will get shot. Plain and simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firstfloor View Post
    Rednecks and Trump voters do more bad things, again. Ambushing and killing an unarmed jogging black man.
    "Trump voters"???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian3 View Post
    "Trump voters"???
    firstfloor's objective with the thread is to sow political and racial discord, because that's what scumbag leftists like him love to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    This is most definitely is not a case of Stand Your Ground or self-defense as some have portrayed. Arbery may or may not have been acting suspiciously but the McMichaels most definitely went too far, resulting in someone dying.

    There has been a lot of talk about what took so long for them to be charged. A significant reason is that the first two prosecutors recused themselves having worked with the elder McMichael in the past.
    Two separate people have come forward to state that the first prosecutor still prevented any arrests from being made before recusing herself.
    "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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    Quote Originally Posted by Littlejoe View Post
    in a neighborhood that had experienced a rash of burglaries
    I believe this has been refuted for several days now. The only reported theft in the area was one incident where the son had a gun stolen from an unlocked truck.
    "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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