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Ahmaud Arbery; racist killing and attempted cover up.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostIt is not uncommon for black police inside the city of Atlanta to stop whites and ask them what they're doing driving in any of the poorer black neighborhoods. They pretty much assume that if you're white you must be looking for drugs or prostitutes
When I worked for a Christian TV station, we were shooting video for a show about street evangelism. We happened to be in a "black" neighborhood, and an older black fellow drove up in a pickup truck and said, "Three white dudes with a TV camera in THIS neighborhood? Y'all must be shooting 'Survivor'!"
Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostAn interesting example of racial profiling.
When I worked for a Christian TV station, we were shooting video for a show about street evangelism. We happened to be in a "black" neighborhood, and an older black fellow drove up in a pickup truck and said, "Three white dudes with a TV camera in THIS neighborhood? Y'all must be shooting 'Survivor'!"
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Originally posted by JimLamebrains View PostWhen did he have the perfect opprtunity to shoot...Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostHe wanted to know why I was in a "black neighborhood" and I told him I was looking for a tattoo parlor, if you must know.
It was one armed man, and he followed me for 4 blocks in my car before following me into a 7-11 where he demanded I stop and turn around and answer why I was there. He displayed his weapon tucked in his belt, then suggested that I leave the store and get back to the "white side" of Omaha if I knew what was good for me.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThe same thing didn't happen to you as did happen to Arbery, then.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostDid you watch the video? Arbery was running straight towards them for at least 10-seconds. When he was within about 20-feet (it's hard to judge the exact distance), the younger McMichaels raised his shotgun, and Arbery continued to run straight ahead for another three seconds. Three seconds to aim at an essentially stationary target (no lateral movement) is pretty much a gimme shot, especially with a shotgun -- and he had lots of time before that when he could have drawn a bead and fired, but he kept his weapon lowered until Arbery was literally seconds away. Again, that does not say "intent to kill" to me.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThe same thing didn't happen to you as did happen to Arbery, then.That's what
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Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostBecause I didn't try to get his gun.Last edited by JimL; 06-15-2020, 06:18 PM.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostBecause it wasn't 3 armed men chasing you down, and you can't even know that he was following you.
How would you know that? He didn't even have a gun on you, he simply pulled into the same parking lot as you and asked you a question.
I'll bet he was a nice guy, probably letting you know you weren't in the safest of neighborhoods.Last edited by Bill the Cat; 06-15-2020, 06:33 PM.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostBecause I didn't try to get his gun.
Now I am sure what happened to BtC was scary, it would scare anyone. But what Arbery faced was an order of of magnitude (at least) more extreme, more aggressive.Last edited by oxmixmudd; 06-15-2020, 07:28 PM.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by JimLamebrain View PostSo, 20 feet away and McMichaels raises his shotgun and points it at Arbery, and you don't think that's a physical threat in which Arbery was in the right to defend himself?
As for whether or not Arbery had the legal right to defend himself (and I don't know), he went about it in the stupidest way possible.
This is not a simple case. Georgia law, as I understand it, says that anybody who causes someone's death, even without intent, during the commission of a crime gets an automatic life sentence. But I'm not certain the McMichaels broke the law. I suspect we won't have any answers until the trial, but my hunch is that nobody is going to jail. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostWay to change the subject. So I guess you agree that the actions of the McMichaels were not consistent with someone with an intent to kill.
As for whether or not Arbery had the legal right to defend himself (and I don't know), he went about it in the stupidest way possible.
This is not a simple case. Georgia law, as I understand it, says that anybody who causes someone's death, even without intent, during the commission of a crime gets an automatic life sentence. But I'm not certain the McMichaels broke the law. I suspect we won't have any answers until the trial, but my hunch is that nobody is going to jail. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.Last edited by JimL; 06-15-2020, 11:31 PM.
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