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    Impeachment attempt #397...

    Source: https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/14/politics/trump-emoluments-case-appeals-ruling/index.html[/cite



    A federal appeals court rejected President Donald Trump's attempt to throw out an emoluments lawsuit against him from DC and Maryland related to his ownership of the Trump International Hotel in Washington.

    The 4th US Circuit Court of Appeals, in a 9-6 ruling, decided the emoluments case on Thursday morning against the President, keeping it alive in trial court and reopening the possibility state officials can access his business records.

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    What a joke...


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    Shocking that there weren't all these impeachment attempts leveled against Obama. Is that because Obama didn't crime or because the Republicans suck at politics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineOb View Post
    Shocking that there weren't all these impeachment attempts leveled against Obama. Is that because Obama didn't crime or because the Republicans suck at politics?
    Community Organizers typically don't do anything, so there were no vectors to level.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    Community Organizers typically don't do anything, so there were no vectors to level.
    He did server two terms and has been America's most admired man for the past 11 years. Don't you think the 'community organizer' label is a bit outdated?

    In any case, on the topic of the thread this is one of the cases where Trump is clearly on poor footing. The Constitution is explicit on this issue and he was doubtless warned before taking office. He didn't have to volunteer for the job if he didn't want it*!



    * Well, he did because Russia was going to call his debt ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineBoob View Post
    Shocking that there weren't all these impeachment attempts leveled against Obama. Is that because Obama didn't crime or because the Republicans suck at politics?
    Obama clearly did a lot of very questionable stuff, but Republicans are not nearly as aggressive or underhanded as Democrats when it comes to pursuing their political opponents. Trump is the first Republican in decades to really fight back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineOb View Post
    He did server two terms and has been America's most admired man for the past 11 years.
    Well, he tied with Trump last year, so...

    Don't you think the 'community organizer' label is a bit outdated?
    Nope. That's what he was before he got into politics. That's what an impeachment would have had to go on.


    In any case, on the topic of the thread this is one of the cases where Trump is clearly on poor footing.
    No he isn't. Not ONE President has ever been charged with violating the Emoluments Clause. The stretch of "rent paid" at a hotel is just political nonsense.

    The Constitution is explicit on this issue and he was doubtless warned before taking office.
    Because it isn't an emolument. The President must be acting in his OFFICIAL CAPACITY, and not one of a private business transaction, for it to be an emolument.

    He didn't have to volunteer for the job if he didn't want it*!



    * Well, he did because Russia was going to call his debt ;)
    Even Obumbles knew Trump had no illegal connection to Russia. That's why he orchestrated the whole ruse.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    Well, he tied with Trump last year, so...
    He actually got slightly more votes than Trump. See the third chart .


    Nope. That's what he was before he got into politics. That's what an impeachment would have had to go on.
    Makes no sense. Trump extorted UKR before he got into politics?


    No he isn't. Not ONE President has ever been charged with violating the Emoluments Clause. The stretch of "rent paid" at a hotel is just political nonsense.
    There's a reason for that. Prior presidents have taken the necessary steps with their assets to avoid violating the clause :).


    Because it isn't an emolument. The President must be acting in his OFFICIAL CAPACITY, and not one of a private business transaction, for it to be an emolument.
    So the judges who have ruled in this case are corrupt? On the take from Soros? Drinking on the job?


    Even Obumbles knew Trump had no illegal connection to Russia. That's why he orchestrated the whole ruse.
    Okey doke :).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Obama clearly did a lot of very questionable stuff, but Republicans are not nearly as aggressive or underhanded as Democrats when it comes to pursuing their political opponents. Trump is the first Republican in decades to really fight back.
    Okey Doke :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineOb View Post
    It was declared a statistical tie, so...


    Makes no sense. Trump extorted UKR before he got into politics?
    No. And he didn't after. The House manufactured the extortion charge, and dropped it like a hot potato once their polling found out that wasn't a popular term.


    There's a reason for that. Prior presidents have taken the necessary steps with their assets to avoid violating the clause :).
    Actually, no they didn't. Jefferson sold tobacco to England while in office. He never relinquished his business control. George Washington did not seek or obtain congressional consent for foreign gifts. President Trump officially transferred management interests of the Trump Organization to the Trust in January 2017. On February 25, 2019, the Trump Organization announced it had donated nearly $200,000 to the U.S. Treasury in order not to retain profits from foreign governments using its properties.



    So the judges who have ruled in this case are corrupt? On the take from Soros? Drinking on the job?
    Politically motivated, as the dissents so aptly detail.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    It was declared a statistical tie, so...
    It's ok. There's always next year ;).


    No. And he didn't after. The House manufactured the extortion charge, and dropped it like a hot potato once their polling found out that wasn't a popular term.
    The point being your response makes no sense, regardless of whether you think UKR was warranted or not.


    Actually, no they didn't. Jefferson sold tobacco to England while in office. He never relinquished his business control. George Washington did not seek or obtain congressional consent for foreign gifts. President Trump officially transferred management interests of the Trump Organization to the Trust in January 2017. On February 25, 2019, the Trump Organization announced it had donated nearly $200,000 to the U.S. Treasury in order not to retain profits from foreign governments using its properties.
    I'm not going to get into discussing the presidencies from 200 years ago. Presidents in the modern era have taken appropriate steps. Trump didn't.


    Politically motivated, as the dissents so aptly detail.
    What page does the dissent start on? The CNN PDF viewer thing sucks.

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