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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineOb View Post
    Shocking that there weren't all these impeachment attempts leveled against Obama. Is that because Obama didn't crime or because the Republicans suck at politics?
    Or it could be that Republicans didn't go all panicky when a democrat won the election and figured they would wait it out instead of spending 4 years trying to drum up phony charges to impeach a sitting president, rioting in the street, and have nervous breakdowns because Killary lost.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineOb View Post
    It's ok. There's always next year ;).
    Yup. I suspect Ol' Barry's image will also be a bit tarnished by then...


    The point being your response makes no sense, regardless of whether you think UKR was warranted or not.
    It makes perfect sense. They are going after Trump for everything, past and present. They expressly stated their intent to turn over every leaf and kick every rock to find anything to impeach him from the morning after the election results came in. Obama had done nothing in his past for witch hunts in which to impeach. Plus, Republicans aren't as big of sore losers


    I'm not going to get into discussing the presidencies from 200 years ago. Presidents in the modern era have taken appropriate steps. Trump didn't.
    It's in the Constitution. When do you think it was written??



    What page does the dissent start on? The CNN PDF viewer thing sucks.
    2/3 of the decision doc is dissent. I had to use Firefox, and even then, it took 2 minutes to load.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    Or it could be that Republicans didn't go all panicky when a democrat won the election and figured they would wait it out instead of spending 4 years trying to drum up phony charges to impeach a sitting president, rioting in the street, and have nervous breakdowns because Killary lost.

    Ok bro :).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    Or it could be that Republicans didn't go all panicky when a democrat won the election and figured they would wait it out instead of spending 4 years trying to drum up phony charges to impeach a sitting president, rioting in the street, and have nervous breakdowns because Killary lost.

    Or it could be that Obama unlike Trump, is a principled man, isn't a lifelong crook, that he gave up a lucrative career in law to be a community organizer and so the republicans couldn't come up with anything to impeach him over like they did to Clinton. I guess you forget about the whole republican freakout about Obama winning the election and birtherism, eh? The rest of your post is just hyperbolic nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    Or it could be that Obama unlike Trump, is a principled man, isn't a lifelong crook, that he gave up a lucrative career in law to be a community organizer and so the republicans couldn't come up with anything to impeach him over like they did to Clinton. I guess you forget about the whole republican freakout about Obama winning the election and birtherism, eh? The rest of your post is just hyperbolic nonsense.
    Principled??????

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    I'm curious as to whether the response from the Trump supporters here leans more toward:

    1. "This section of the constitution hasn't historically been very relevant because the Presidents weren't from an international business background. This section wasn't designed with someone like Trump in mind, and is too onerous on a modern businessman, and it's unreasonable to expect Trump to follow it, and it should be discarded as a historic relic. Possibly an amendment should be passed to formally remove this provision."

    or

    2. "Trump knows what he's doing. I believe in him. His lawyers will have made sure his business dealings are fully legal and constitutional. Because I believe that Trump will have adhered to the law and constitution, I believe there will be no case here."

    or possibly,

    3. "Without knowing anything much about this historical part of the constitution nor having any particular opinion on Trump's business dealings, I'm used to political parties doing fishing expeditions. I believe this to be just the latest political fishing expedition. This must just be the latest version of Dems being mad they didn't win the election. So I assume there's no merits to it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    Principled??????
    That goes along with the other howlers "scandal free" and "not a smidgen of corruption".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    Or it could be that Republicans didn't go all panicky when a democrat won the election and figured they would wait it out instead of spending 4 years trying to drum up phony charges to impeach a sitting president, rioting in the street, and have nervous breakdowns because Killary lost.

    I'm also not certain that Washington Republicans necessarily disagreed with Obama's plan to expand the scope and power of the Federal government because of how it would benefit them. As the saying goes, "A rising swamp lifts all boats."
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlight View Post
    I'm curious as to whether the response from the Trump supporters here leans more toward:

    1. "This section of the constitution hasn't historically been very relevant because the Presidents weren't from an international business background. This section wasn't designed with someone like Trump in mind, and is too onerous on a modern businessman, and it's unreasonable to expect Trump to follow it, and it should be discarded as a historic relic. Possibly an amendment should be passed to formally remove this provision."

    or

    2. "Trump knows what he's doing. I believe in him. His lawyers will have made sure his business dealings are fully legal and constitutional. Because I believe that Trump will have adhered to the law and constitution, I believe there will be no case here."

    or possibly,

    3. "Without knowing anything much about this historical part of the constitution nor having any particular opinion on Trump's business dealings, I'm used to political parties doing fishing expeditions. I believe this to be just the latest political fishing expedition. This must just be the latest version of Dems being mad they didn't win the election. So I assume there's no merits to it."
    Elements of all 3, TBH

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    I'm also not certain that Washington Republicans necessarily disagreed with Obama's plan to expand the scope and power of the Federal government because of how it would benefit them. As the saying goes, "A rising swamp lifts all boats."
    Interesting phrase. Google only has one hit for it...

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