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Two in depth investigations on Tara Reade and her claims

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  • #46
    Originally posted by DivineOb View Post
    Which ones of those do you consider to be "excuses" and which ones "explanations"?
    I'd have to look at each of them, and I'm really not that interested. I was mildly surprised to see your cite that she actually HAS accepted responsibility, kinda sorta, at that particular moment in time.
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
      So, Jimmy, no response to this?


      If you think that indicates an unfair advantage in favor of Republicans, then what's your idea of a "fair" election? Republicans never win? Only win once every 50-years? Once a century?

      Whatever, moron.
      A fair election has nothing to do with who wins. The unfair advantage exists whether the party with that advantage wins or not.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by JimLamebrain View Post
        A fair election has nothing to do with who wins. The unfair advantage exists whether the party with that advantage wins or not.
        Right... So in your world, it would only be fair if the Republicans never won.
        Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
        Than a fool in the eyes of God


        From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
          I'd have to look at each of them, and I'm really not that interested. I was mildly surprised to see your cite that she actually HAS accepted responsibility, kinda sorta, at that particular moment in time.
          Well, if you took the time to read your own link you'd see that, while some of those reasons given would make her look bad (though I doubt she truly "blamed her staff" and would want to dig in to that a bit more), the vast majority of reasons are just that, reasons. E.g., Comey's letter, Anthonty Weiner's laptop, Russian interference etc. It seems like you and rogue06 are totally misstating her views due, no doubt, to preconceived bias against her. Fortunately that bias doesn't infect any of your other views I'm sure ;).

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          • #50
            Originally posted by DivineOb View Post
            No one deserves to be sexually assaulted.

            It has been stated that Tara Reade's story was insufficiently investigated. Here are two new in depth investigations.

            First, https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politic...es-allegations . Lots in this article and I can't possible summarize the whole thing.


            The PBS NewsHour spoke with 74 former Biden staffers, of whom 62 were women, in order to get a broader picture of his behavior toward women over the course of his career, how they see the new allegation, and whether there was evidence of a larger pattern.

            None of the people interviewed said that they had experienced sexual harassment, assault or misconduct by Biden. All said they never heard any rumors or allegations of Biden engaging in sexual misconduct, until the recent assault allegation made by Tara Reade. Former staffers said they believed Reade should be heard, and acknowledged that their experiences do not disprove her accusation.


            Overall, the people who spoke to the NewsHour described largely positive and gratifying experiences working for Biden, painting a portrait of someone who was ahead of his time in empowering women in the workplace.

            Ben Savage, who said his desk was next to Reade’s in the Biden mailroom, disputed her charge that she was forced out of her job in retaliation for a sexual harassment complaint she claims to have filed.

            Savage, who worked as the office’s systems administrator, overseeing computers and information processing, told the NewsHour that Reade was fired for her poor performance on the job, which he witnessed — not as retaliation for her complaints about sexual harassment.

            But according to Savage, Reade had been mishandling a key part of her job and an essential office task — processing constituent mail, something they worked on together. Savage said he recalls reporting these issues to his boss, deputy chief of staff Dennis Toner. After that, Savage said he began diminishing Reade’s duties, taking over some of her tasks and rerouting parts of the process to exclude her.



            Second, https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...ntances-260771


            ‘Manipulative, deceitful, user’: Tara Reade left a trail of aggrieved acquaintances

            A number of those who crossed paths with Biden’s accuser say they remember two things: She spoke favorably about her time working for Biden, and she left them feeling duped.

            Wrye and her husband knew Reade as Tara McCabe, the woman who had rented a yurt on their 12-acre California property and tended to the couple’s horses — and her own — for about 10 months beginning in 2017. They were well-acquainted with their former tenant, who frequently knocked on the door of their home seeking emotional support, asking for financial help or forgiveness for late rent payments, which they granted.

            “You can use these words: manipulative, deceitful, user,” said Kelly Klett, an attorney who rented Reade a room in her home in 2018. “Looking back at it all now, that is exactly how I view her and how I feel about her.”

            After her husband suffered a brain injury that forced the couple to sell the property, Wrye said, Reade turned on them.

            “She became really difficult,” Wrye said. “She said, ‘You’re going to have to pay me to get me to leave.’”

            “She was manipulative,” said Wrye, a self-described feminist and social activist. “She was always saying she was going to get it together, but she couldn’t. And ‘could you help her’?”

            The people quoted in this article provided copies of past emails, screenshots of Facebook Messenger or text exchanges with Reade, copies of billing invoices or court records detailing their grievances or correspondence. POLITICO also reviewed dozens of public records, including court documents, divorce filings and Reade’s 2012 bankruptcy records.



            Tons more in that article as well. Because I'm a naive fool I assume this will at least start to satisfy those whinging about the lack of investigation into Tara's claims.
            Oh please! by "investigation," people are talking about by actual authorities, like the FBI, secret service, etc, not by liberal newspapers (or conservative ones)

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            • #51
              https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/21/u...edentials.html


              Defense lawyers in California are reviewing criminal cases in which Tara Reade, the former Senate aide who has accused Joseph R. Biden Jr. of sexual assault, served as an expert witness on domestic violence, concerned that she misrepresented her educational credentials in court.

              Then known as Alexandra McCabe, Ms. Reade testified as a government witness in Monterey County courts for nearly a decade, describing herself as an expert in the dynamics of domestic violence who had counseled hundreds of victims.

              But lawyers who had faced off against her in court began raising questions about the legitimacy of her testimony, and the verdicts that followed, after news reports this week that Antioch University had disputed her claim of receiving a bachelor’s degree from its Seattle campus.


              I'll very patiently await the realization by those "on the right" that this scandal is one heck of a stinker.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by DivineOb View Post
                https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/21/u...edentials.html


                Defense lawyers in California are reviewing criminal cases in which Tara Reade, the former Senate aide who has accused Joseph R. Biden Jr. of sexual assault, served as an expert witness on domestic violence, concerned that she misrepresented her educational credentials in court.

                Then known as Alexandra McCabe, Ms. Reade testified as a government witness in Monterey County courts for nearly a decade, describing herself as an expert in the dynamics of domestic violence who had counseled hundreds of victims.

                But lawyers who had faced off against her in court began raising questions about the legitimacy of her testimony, and the verdicts that followed, after news reports this week that Antioch University had disputed her claim of receiving a bachelor’s degree from its Seattle campus.


                I'll very patiently await the realization by those "on the right" that this scandal is one heck of a stinker.
                I'm perfectly OK waiting for the facts to emerge, and say what they say.
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  I'm perfectly OK waiting for the facts to emerge, and say what they say.
                  Appreciate your measured response on this. A lot of people "on the left" went psycho over her claims and will have to answer for it :|.

                  In related news she was just dropped by one of her lawyers (the non-Russian propagandist) https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/21/u...edentials.html


                  The lawyer for Tara Reade, the former Senate aide who has accused Joseph R. Biden Jr. of sexual assault, said Friday that he was no longer representing her, just two weeks after taking her on as a client.

                  The lawyer, Douglas H. Wigdor, has been a leading plaintiff’s attorney of the #MeToo era. His firm is best known for bringing discrimination cases against Fox News — and its former star host Bill O’Reilly — and Harvey Weinstein, and his presence at Ms. Reade’s side gave her claims added legal heft.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by DivineOb View Post
                    Appreciate your measured response on this. A lot of people "on the left" went psycho over her claims and will have to answer for it :|.

                    In related news she was just dropped by one of her lawyers (the non-Russian propagandist) https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/21/u...edentials.html


                    The lawyer for Tara Reade, the former Senate aide who has accused Joseph R. Biden Jr. of sexual assault, said Friday that he was no longer representing her, just two weeks after taking her on as a client.

                    The lawyer, Douglas H. Wigdor, has been a leading plaintiff’s attorney of the #MeToo era. His firm is best known for bringing discrimination cases against Fox News — and its former star host Bill O’Reilly — and Harvey Weinstein, and his presence at Ms. Reade’s side gave her claims added legal heft.
                    This case it probably too hot for any high-powered legal firm to take it on. Weinstein was a sacrificial lamb (probably with Democrats' sights on Trump). In this case, the whole Democratic party is at stake -- so few legal firms want to go against this pressure.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
                      This case it probably too hot for any high-powered legal firm to take it on. Weinstein was a sacrificial lamb (probably with Democrats' sights on Trump). In this case, the whole Democratic party is at stake -- so few legal firms want to go against this pressure.
                      There are plenty of high powered Republican lawyers. The idea that no one is willing to take this case and torpedo Biden's candidacy is sheer lunacy. And the lawyer who is dropping her previously agreed to represent her!

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by DivineOb View Post
                        In related news she was just dropped by one of her lawyers (the non-Russian propagandist)
                        Seems like she's becoming toxic now her history of fraud and con-artistry is coming out.

                        I think by the time the election rolls around most people will have forgotten who she is as the issue fades away due to her claims no longer being considered likely.
                        "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                        "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                        "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                          Seems like she's becoming toxic now her history of fraud and con-artistry is coming out.

                          I think by the time the election rolls around most people will have forgotten who she is as the issue fades away due to her claims no longer being considered likely.
                          Forgotten who WHO is?
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                            Seems like she's becoming toxic now her history of fraud and con-artistry is coming out.

                            I think by the time the election rolls around most people will have forgotten who she is as the issue fades away due to her claims no longer being considered likely.
                            Indeed. That is why the media focused on Biden early on. This gives the media a chance to accuse the accuser and then bury the topic.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
                              Indeed. That is why the media focused on Biden early on. This gives the media a chance to accuse the accuser and then bury the topic.
                              There are literally murderers in prison right now who will get a new trial because of her flawed expert testimony. There are real people who were injured who will have to testify at a new trial because of her flawed expert testimony. None of that is the MSM's doing or then "accusing the accuser."

                              Sheesh

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