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  • Trump fires 4th Inspector General.

    The wannabe dictator has now fired his fourth Inspector General. Steve Linick, who served under both Bush and Obama was fired late friday night with no explanation given. Apparently he had just opened an investigation into M. Pompeo and his use of State Dept aids to run errands for his family. Pompeo it is alleged requested Trump to fire Linick. This is the 4th IG to be fired by Trump, along with Linick, the State Dept. IG, Trump has also fired M Atkinson, the IG of the Intelligence community, Glen Fine, IG of the defense Dept. and Christi Grimm, Deputy IG of the Dept of Health.

    http://www.politico.com/news/2020/05...l-fired-261536

    Banana republic here we come! Do you think you Trumpsters will ever wake up!

  • #2
    He should have did a clean sweep and fired a whole lot more unelected holdovers of past admins, but he couldn't at the time because of all the fake investigations. Had he done it then, the left would cried "OBSTRUCTION!" Now that all that nonsense is over, the hammer is dropping.

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    • #3
      What Jimmy doesn't seem to understand is that inspector generals serve at the pleasure of the president and can be fired at any time for any reason.
      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
      Than a fool in the eyes of God


      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
        What Jimmy doesn't seem to understand is that inspector generals serve at the pleasure of the president and can be fired at any time for any reason.
        Things MM doesn't understand

        1) It's Inspectors General
        2) You can fire for any reason but not a corrupt reason
        Last edited by DivineOb; 05-16-2020, 09:35 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
          What Jimmy doesn't seem to understand is that inspector generals serve at the pleasure of the president and can be fired at any time for any reason.
          What MM doesn't understand is that the president is supposed to give Congress a 30 day notice to look into the matter. No, the President has to have a ligitimate reason for firing an IG, a reason pertaining to his actual job as IG.Trump is installing loyalist, toadies, answerable only to him, not to the Constitution, and not to the people for whom they were put there to serve. He has the top of the DOJ, the Atty. General in the palm of his hand, and he is ridding the system, his administration, of any oversight. Wake up people!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by DivineBoob View Post
            You can fire for any reason but not a corrupt reason
            Great. Now all the Democrats have to do is prove he was fired for a corrupt reason.

            Good luck to them.
            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
            Than a fool in the eyes of God


            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
              Great. Now all the Democrats have to do is prove he was fired for a corrupt reason.

              Good luck to them.
              For that I'd refer you to the OP.


              Apparently he had just opened an investigation into M. Pompeo and his use of State Dept aids to run errands for his family. Pompeo it is alleged requested Trump to fire Linick.


              If Linick indeed had just opened an investigation into Pompeo then we're well on our way.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                Great. Now all the Democrats have to do is prove he was fired for a corrupt reason.

                Good luck to them.
                Would it matter to you if there were no oversight in government other than Trump, MM? Because he is well on his way there. Would it matter, or are you just all in with it.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by JimL View Post
                  Banana republic here we come! Do you think you Trumpsters will ever wake up!
                  Yes, but it shows the US administrative system is flawed, not merely Trump.

                  The fact that a President can fire anyone who dares investigate the wrongdoing of his cronies, shows the chain of command isn't sensibly organised to begin with.

                  In my country, the leader can't issue such commands to fire people she doesn't like investigating the wrongdoings of her administration. Such people simply are independently employed in different command structures and are not her appointees.

                  America's foolish choice was to organize their system in such a way that a corrupt president can fire those investigating his corruption and that of his cronies. The fact that Trump, as a person, happens to be corrupt enough and bold enough, to exercise this power for ill, is bad, but it's a dumb system that gives him such power in the first place.
                  "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                  "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                  "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                    Yes, but it shows the US administrative system is flawed, not merely Trump.

                    The fact that a President can fire anyone who dares investigate the wrongdoing of his cronies, shows the chain of command isn't sensibly organised to begin with.

                    In my country, the leader can't issue such commands to fire people she doesn't like investigating the wrongdoings of her administration. Such people simply are independently employed in different command structures and are not her appointees.

                    America's foolish choice was to organize their system in such a way that a corrupt president can fire those investigating his corruption and that of his cronies. The fact that Trump, as a person, happens to be corrupt enough and bold enough, to exercise this power for ill, is bad, but it's a dumb system that gives him such power in the first place.
                    No argument from me there, star. There is no doubt about that. And it should have come to mind when creating the IG's positions, because the positions were created in response to the actions of another wannabe dictator, Richard Nixon.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by JimL View Post
                      The wannabe dictator has now fired his fourth Inspector General. Steve Linick, who served under both Bush and Obama was fired late friday night with no explanation given. Apparently he had just opened an investigation into M. Pompeo and his use of State Dept aids to run errands for his family. Pompeo it is alleged requested Trump to fire Linick. This is the 4th IG to be fired by Trump, along with Linick, the State Dept. IG, Trump has also fired M Atkinson, the IG of the Intelligence community, Glen Fine, IG of the defense Dept. and Christi Grimm, Deputy IG of the Dept of Health.

                      http://www.politico.com/news/2020/05...l-fired-261536

                      Banana republic here we come! Do you think you Trumpsters will ever wake up!
                      Sayeth the people locking up people in their homes, filling in skateboard parks with sand, and arresting people for not wearing mask.
                      "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                      GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DivineOb View Post
                        For that I'd refer you to the OP.


                        Apparently he had just opened an investigation into M. Pompeo and his use of State Dept aids to run errands for his family. Pompeo it is alleged requested Trump to fire Linick.


                        If Linick indeed had just opened an investigation into Pompeo then we're well on our way.
                        According to a "Democratic congressional aide".
                        Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                        Than a fool in the eyes of God


                        From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
                          Sayeth the people locking up people in their homes, filling in skateboard parks with sand, and arresting people for not wearing mask.
                          Are you talking about the Presidential guidelines?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                            What Jimmy doesn't seem to understand is that inspector generals serve at the pleasure of the president and can be fired at any time for any reason.
                            Yes, the president can unfortunately hire and fire inspector generals at his pleasure, but . . .

                            Source: https://www.thoughtco.com/about-the-office-of-inspector-general-3322191


                            A U.S. federal inspector general (IG) is the head of an independent, non-partisan organization established within each executive branch agency assigned to audit the agency’s operation in order to discover and investigate cases of misconduct, waste, fraud and other abuse of government procedures occurring within the agency.


                            Within the federal agencies are politically independent individuals called Inspectors General who are responsible for ensuring that the agencies operate efficiently, effectively and legally. When it was reported in October 2006 that Department of Interior employees wasted $2,027,887.68 worth of taxpayer time annually surfing sexually explicit, gambling, and auction websites while at work, it was the Interior Department's own Office of Inspector General that conducted the investigation and issued the report.


                            The Mission of the Office of Inspector General

                            Established by the Inspector General Act of 1978, the Office of Inspector General (OIG) examines all actions of a government agency or military organization. Conducting audits and investigations, either independently or in response to reports of wrongdoing, the OIG ensures that the agency's operations are in compliance with the law and general established policies of the government. Audits conducted by the OIG are intended to ensure the effectiveness of security procedures or to discover the possibility of misconduct, waste, fraud, theft, or certain types of criminal activity by individuals or groups related to the agency's operation. Misuse of agency funds or equipment is often revealed by OIG audits.

                            There are currently 73 offices of US inspectors general, far more than the initial 12 offices created by the Inspector General Act of 1978. Along with administrative staff and several financial and procedural auditors, each office employs special agents—criminal investigators who are often armed.


                            The work of the IG offices involves detecting and preventing fraud, waste, abuse, and mismanagement of the government programs and operations within their parent agencies or organizations. Investigations conducted by the IG offices may target internal government employees or external government contractors, grant recipients, or recipients of loans and subsidies offered through federal assistance programs.


                            To help them carry out their investigative role, Inspectors General have the authority to issue subpoenas for information and documents, administer oaths for taking testimony, and can hire and control their own staff and contract personnel. The investigative authority of Inspectors General is limited only by certain national security and law enforcement considerations.

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                            It is problem when he fires the inspector general investigating Pompeo at Pompeo's request.
                            Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                            Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                            But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                            go with the flow the river knows . . .

                            Frank

                            I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                              It is problem when he fires the inspector general investigating Pompeo at Pompeo's request.
                              We don't even know if that's true. Politico's source was a congressional aide, so this could very well just be office gossip.
                              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                              Than a fool in the eyes of God


                              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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