Originally posted by Jim B.
View Post
Announcement
Collapse
Philosophy 201 Guidelines
Cogito ergo sum
Here in the Philosophy forum we will talk about all the "why" questions. We'll have conversations about the way in which philosophy and theology and religion interact with each other. Metaphysics, ontology, origins, truth? They're all fair game so jump right in and have some fun! But remember...play nice!
Forum Rules: Here
Here in the Philosophy forum we will talk about all the "why" questions. We'll have conversations about the way in which philosophy and theology and religion interact with each other. Metaphysics, ontology, origins, truth? They're all fair game so jump right in and have some fun! But remember...play nice!
Forum Rules: Here
See more
See less
B Theory Of Time...
Collapse
X
-
Last edited by JonathanL; 06-02-2020, 04:55 PM.
-
-
Originally posted by Chrawnus View PostIt would seem like if each moment of my existence is equally real, and I am experiencing a "now" in each moment in which I exist, then there doesn't just exist a single me, but a separate me for each moment of time in which I exist. It doesn't seem to me like the "me" who is typing down this paragraph is the same "me" who is going to click on the "post quick reply button". In fact, it seems to me like the "me" who moved his finger to press down a single key to type a single letter on the screen is different from the "me" who released the key after I was done typing that letter.
Comment
-
-
Originally posted by Jim B. View PostBut in A-Theory, the future doesn't exist, so God could be ignorant of the future and still be omniscient.
Comment
-
Originally posted by JimL View PostTrue. But the christian perspective has always been that god knows the future as is fortold in the bible. If he did, then the existence of that knowledge would negate the possibility of free will. One can't change their future actions if in some sense they already exist, B-theory, or if they are already known, omniscience of the future.
Comment
-
Originally posted by seer View PostSo 2019 still exists in the universe?
Comment
-
Originally posted by Jim B. View PostBut in A-Theory, the future doesn't exist, so God could be ignorant of the future and still be omniscient.
Comment
-
Originally posted by Jim B. View PostIf God could foretell the future with absolute certainty, then that isn't A-Theory. If it's A-Theory, the future doesn't exist. Prophecy could still be possible on A-Theory, I think, if God knows all past and present facts and is very good at projecting contingencies and probabilities into the future. Or if God is 'outside' of time as Augustine thought and can timelessly know every A-series event as it happens.Last edited by Sparko; 06-04-2020, 07:06 AM.
Comment
-
Originally posted by Sparko View PostHow many times are you going to keep asking the same questions after I answered you multiple times? No matter what I say, or what Box says, you just repeat yourself. You are starting to sound like Tasman. At this point it is clear to me you just can't grasp the concepts involved in understanding the theory and my time is being wasted trying to explain it to you. Or maybe I am just really bad at explaining things. Either way, we are not getting anywhere and I am getting frustrated at repeating myself over and over. I am just going to ignore your repeated questions at this point.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
Comment
-
Originally posted by seer View PostWell it is stupid. 1969 no longer exists, that me no longer exists. My friend why died no longer exists. You can't time travel back because there is nothing to travel to.
OK I will play.
Well that is stupid, 1969 exists in space-time, and if you had a time machine you could travel back to it.
There. I win.
Comment
-
Originally posted by Sparko View PostSo, your argument is to just assert that the A-theory is true? Basically just hand-wave away any argument because you don't want to believe it?
OK I will play.
Well that is stupid, 1969 exists in space-time, and if you had a time machine you could travel back to it.
There. I win.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
Comment
-
Originally posted by seer View PostNo Sparko, you can't travel back in time with B Theory either. Because there is no "back." Time is tenseless, in B Theory, static. There is no distinction between past, present and future. All events are present now as we speak. So if the 1968 me exists you don't go back to find him - you look for him in the here and now. So where is that 1968 me?
Comment
-
Originally posted by Sparko View PostIt is still "back". Like a ruler, each line has a position - 1 isn't in the same location as 2, it is "back" if you are at 2, you can't find 1 at the same location as 2. You can't find 1969 "here and now" - that's dumb. Seer, are you just acting dumb or do you really not understand the B-theory at all? Because if it's the former, then stop, but if it's the latter then I am wasting my time trying to debate something with someone with no knowledge of the subject. If you can't even grasp my position, then you have no way to argue against it. And thus we just go over the same thing over and over.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
Comment
Related Threads
Collapse
Topics | Statistics | Last Post | ||
---|---|---|---|---|
Started by shunyadragon, 03-01-2024, 09:40 AM
|
172 responses
609 views
0 likes
|
Last Post
by seer
04-15-2024, 11:55 AM
|
Comment