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Norma Roe didn't really change her mind

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    Norma Roe didn't really change her mind

    It pains me to bring this up, but in the spirit of honesty, I need to because it's been a major pro-life talking point.

    It turns out that "Norma Roe" admitted shortly before her death that she never really changed her mind, but was paid by Operation Rescue to denounce abortion. So it looks like this argument needs to be avoided from now on.

    Mild language in article.

    https://www.latimes.com/entertainmen...u-doc-abortion
    Last edited by KingsGambit; 05-19-2020, 02:33 PM.
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    Well that is certainly something I didn't see coming.
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    • #3
      Wow. Admitting to be a liar because she was paid good money...
      That's what
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      • #4
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • #5

          I'm always still in trouble again

          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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          • #6
            Operation Rescue? Weren't they the ones who informed the shooter of Tiller of his personal address and where he went to Church?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
              Operation Rescue? Weren't they the ones who informed the shooter of Tiller of his personal address and where he went to Church?
              It's not 100% clear what their involvement was. Scott Roeder has claimed from prison that Operation Rescue has been less than truthful in their claiming to have nothing to do with him. Either way, I believe pro lifers should steer away from groups willing to utilize dishonesty, most notably also including Project Veritas.
              "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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              • #8
                "(I)ncluding Operation Rescue." I'd like to know what other Pro-Life liars were involved.
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                • #9
                  The article referenced Rob Schenck and his change of view. I'd never heard of him -- or if I did hear, had no recollection at all of his name. I found this NYT article wherein he details his complete abandonment of the Pro-Life cause. Certainly it's a tear-jerker, but to me, nothing in it remotely justifies leaving the Pro-Life -- or if one prefers, the Anti-Abortion -- cause.
                  Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.

                  Beige Federalist.

                  Nationalist Christian.

                  "Everybody is somebody's heretic."

                  Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.

                  Proud member of the this space left blank community.

                  Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.

                  Justice for Ashli Babbitt!

                  Justice for Matthew Perna!

                  Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!

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                  • #10


                    A major disappointment to read.
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                    • #11
                      Honestly, in my humblest opinion, that was never a very good talking point in the first place. It certainly did a good deal to bolster people who are already Pro-Life in their thinking but I don't know of any Pro-Choice advocates who were swayed by it. Whether or not a person has changed her mind on a particular issue tells us very little about the issue. Good reasoning will remain good and poor reasoning will remain poor regardless of whether someone switches to one or the other. It does far less good to focus on who has come around to Pro-Life positions than to focus on why someone ought to be Pro-Life.
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                      • #12
                        This is interesting.

                        https://www.liveaction.org/news/norm...cord-straight/



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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by mossrose View Post
                          This is interesting.

                          https://www.liveaction.org/news/norm...cord-straight/

                          I'm always still in trouble again

                          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                          • #14
                            She seems to have lied about everything her whole life and dragged the country into her mess both pro and antiabortion. Not exactly the person I would want to reference for any movement at all. She seems to have been a person of very low character.

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                            • #15
                              Is this confession of hers on tape so it can be verified?

                              And if it is, do we have proof other than her that it is the truth?

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